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re: Do you have complete trust in Lee to hang in the pocket strong and deliver
Posted on 11/2/11 at 2:26 pm to JWill409
Posted on 11/2/11 at 2:26 pm to JWill409
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this isn't last year, then why is Jefferson still being criticized for his passing game when he has made great throws when given the opportunity?
Dude, JJ has probably improved. But great throws? He's completed like 7 passes this season. There's not a whole lot to base anything off of.
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Posted on 11/2/11 at 2:49 pm to TheLoupGarou
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If it gets stuffed and the Tigers can't move the ball with their feet, LSU loses that well-oiled and balanced offense - if so, all bets are
if we can pass, we can run. don't be surprised if our first few possessions are 3 and out because of run first.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 3:03 pm to JohnLSU
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Lee has completed 17 passes for 248 yards against Alabama.
Actually, Lee has 21 completions for 292 yards, 1 TD, and has only been sacked 4 times over 3 games
Posted on 11/2/11 at 3:28 pm to TIsuGGER
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Actually, Lee has 21 completions for 292 yards, 1 TD, and has only been sacked 4 times over 3 games
How many to the other team and for TDs? (Had to take that shot)
Posted on 11/2/11 at 3:30 pm to JWill409
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Then ridddle me this. If this isn't last year, then why is Jefferson still being criticized for his passing game when he has made great throws when given the opportunity? Chris Mortensen tweeted earlier in the year that all the hype about Jefferson was true and named him a top 3 qb at the Manning camp.
He really has not had the opportunity to show me how much he has improved. It's fortunately unfortunate for him because Lee has looked so good. In the throws I seen him make he does seem to be more accurate. However, I feel he still makes the one read and tucks it instead of going through progressions.
I think the coaching staff has allowed him to play at his strengths. Max protect on the line and send out one or two skilled guys to get open. If they are not JJ is told to take off.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 3:31 pm to LSU ATC
I did't read all this and I'm a girl so my opinion doesn't matter much BUT I think that McCarron will get more rattled with our D pressuring him that JLee or JJefferson will with their defense pressuring them.
But I don't know shite ... GEAUX TIGERS!!!
But I don't know shite ... GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Posted on 11/2/11 at 3:34 pm to TIsuGGER
quote:Lee has been VERY efficient in 2011. He has led LSU to eight glorious victories.
Actually, Lee has 21 completions for 292 yards, 1 TD, and has only been sacked 4 times over 3 games
There are many reasons to think Lee will have a terrific game against Alabama.
However, Lee's prior performance against Alabama are not included those reasons.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 3:46 pm to LSU ATC
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He really has not had the opportunity to show me how much he has improved. It's fortunately unfortunate for him because Lee has looked so good. In the throws I seen him make he does seem to be more accurate. However, I feel he still makes the one read and tucks it instead of going through progressions.
Do some of yall not realize that we have a one read check down offense. Very simple. If that first read which is usually RR(switch it up with OBJ)is not there we check it down to the RB. it just so happens that the first read has been open early and often. Please dont use the example of the nice pass to the TE bc he was the first read on the play. Krags saw a chance to release the TE up the seam and he did.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 3:53 pm to 5Alive
Lee will really show how good he is Saturday night. 100%
Posted on 11/2/11 at 4:12 pm to 5Alive
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Do some of yall not realize that we have a one read check down offense. Very simple. If that first read which is usually RR(switch it up with OBJ)is not there we check it down to the RB. it just so happens that the first read has been open early and often. Please dont use the example of the nice pass to the TE bc he was the first read on the play. Krags saw a chance to release the TE up the seam and he did.
wooooowwwww someone on here actually watches the games like me. There are no "progressions" lol there rarely is in college...maybe 2 reads and a check down which is either a rb or a te.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 4:14 pm to JWill409
Hoping he proves you f'kers wrong this weekend... 
Posted on 11/2/11 at 4:15 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
Yes
Posted on 11/2/11 at 4:19 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
As I recall, with almost exactly the same cast, Nick's boys could not rattle Lee or Jefferson a year ago and really didn't do it in '09. The '08 game where Lee had the int's that cost LSU the game was the last time his defense won a game against LSU and that was against a freshman QB. LSU's combination of Oline- Tight ends and fullbacks will be like nothing 'Bama has seen this season, and, oh by the way, both Lee and JJ have greatly improved at moving around in the pocket to help their protection. Bottom line, the LSU QB's have faced AND defeated the type of pressure Saban dials up. The same can not be said of McCarron facing the Tiger's Defense.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 4:19 pm to tubucoco
Lee has been sacked 4 times ALL year. As a comparison, Jefferson has been sacked 3 times behind the same OL in limited playing time.
I wonder what the sack to pass attempt ratio is for Lee, my guess it's probably at the top of the SEC. On top of that it's not like he's just throwing it up for grabs to avoid a sack as he has only 1 INT. It also appears he's not just throwing the ball away every time he's pressured as he still has a good compl. %.
The starting QB of a team that has won every game by double digits and he's played well enough that he leads his conference in Pass Eff. This is the guy (some) people are worried about? Some people have too much time on their hands...
I wonder what the sack to pass attempt ratio is for Lee, my guess it's probably at the top of the SEC. On top of that it's not like he's just throwing it up for grabs to avoid a sack as he has only 1 INT. It also appears he's not just throwing the ball away every time he's pressured as he still has a good compl. %.
The starting QB of a team that has won every game by double digits and he's played well enough that he leads his conference in Pass Eff. This is the guy (some) people are worried about? Some people have too much time on their hands...
Posted on 11/2/11 at 4:23 pm to RANDY44
Looking at last year, two years ago, three years ago is worthless. Both QB's could be necessary to beat Bama. Hope both do well in their respective roles and have faith that each can contribute. I have seen nothing to suggest there will be major problems at the QB position on Saturday for LSU
Posted on 11/2/11 at 4:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Looking at last year, two years ago, three years ago is worthless.
No more worthless than comparing stats for the season unless it's against common opponents. In fact, it's quite worthy to note that historically, Saban's defenses have not done as well against LSU as they have against everyone else and vice versa for the LSU offense against 'Bama. Neither defense is likely to maintain their elite numbers this weekend. That's why turnovers and field position are so vital to determining the outcome of this type of evenly matched contest.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 4:34 pm to RANDY44
Eh, both teams are different this year, AJ is new, JJ and Lee are experienced. I think this favors LSU but as far as any historical significance of the past few years games, throw it out the window. I haven't seen anything about these three QB's to suggest a weakness coming in.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 4:47 pm to 5Alive
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Do some of yall not realize that we have a one read check down offense. Very simple. If that first read which is usually RR(switch it up with OBJ)is not there we check it down to the RB. it just so happens that the first read has been open early and often. Please dont use the example of the nice pass to the TE bc he was the first read on the play. Krags saw a chance to release the TE up the seam and he did.
I don't think it's quite THAT simple, but yes, Lee/JJ are pretty protected and not asked to do much this year.
But Lee has done a great job with what he's asked.
JJ as well.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 5:01 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
This is without question the fiercest defense we've faced all year. Lee has been amazing up to this point, but it wouldn't surprise me to see one of his quick swing passes taken the other way. The important thing IMO is to keep Lee in the game in the series following a miscue. I have no problem with JJ taking snaps, but we shouldn't let Bama feel the satisfaction of shutting down one QB or the other. In fact, for this reason alone I'd like to see both QBs take snaps earlier on in the game.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 5:38 pm to JWill409
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wooooowwwww someone on here actually watches the games like me. There are no "progressions" lol there rarely is in college...maybe 2 reads and a check down which is either a rb or a te.
Its so true. People just have to actually watch the game
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