re: Distilling down Les Miles

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And you cannot really argue with his record, it's phenomenal.

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But yet...you try, huh.

The "system" I care bout is one that wins and 8 years later the Miles system has won more than any other BCS program in the nation and been more successful that any other LSU HC ever!

What LSU has achieved since 2005 is made even more "phenomenal" when one considers the fact it comes during a period when the SEC is by far and away the most powerful conference in all of college football.

When the rubber hit the road, a HC is measured by one factor above all others...does he win.

I got a theory too...some of us have become so spoiled from our elite success that we can no longer see the forest for the trees and we have become titty babies.

was the OP born after JR at QB? we threw it a lot that year. it's almost like we play to strengths of our offense, weird?

i back miles but honestly have no idea what happened Jan 9th. he was awful that night but bama was also excellent.

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Agree with your points very much, but you forgot to also add these resume busters to Les's formidable history:

1) Playing not to lose. Get a little lead and sit on it, let your defense and ST be bigger parts of the game than just 1/3 or 1/4, which they should be.
2) Marble mouth explanations, vagaries, and general douchebagness when answering questions. Remember, he does not owe you an explanation. You are just supposed to come to the games and cheer whatever he does. Midwest and Big 10 fans do not know football, and neither should you.
3) Hire great coordinators and then handcuff them. Hire bad coordinators and let them stay longer than they should because 'you're a nice guy'. Screw the program and all that nonsense.

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i totally agree about saban here. wait, who were we talking about??

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Never seen a player treated so badly as J Lee.What a trooper !!!!

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Were you watching the LSU/ Ole Miss game in 2008. That day many of our very own fans cheered as Lee laid on the field injured. Sad really.

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Stubborn, personal IDIOSYNCRASIES that render him purblind to the reality around him.

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I agree. What ever "it" is, "it" is strange. The saga of JJ and JL epitomizes LM weirdness as a coach. That episode and the entire BCS game made no sense to me at all.

Love your avatar!

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Bama did not change anything about their game except to prepare for it, which *LM seemingly did not; we saw improvement in 'Bama's motivation, special teams play, and field goal kicking.

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We saw improvement in everything from Bama, including game plan. Everything was different. They f'king owned that game.

I'm ok airbornetiger...

I consider myself a skeptic of him is all. His losing the BCS was worse than an Olympic ice skater falling down during a gold medal routine, losing ones chance for ultimate glory after a lifetime of practice...because of an accident beyond ones control. The ice skater didn't have a choice, *LM did. All *LM had to do was obvious TO ANYONE WATCHING, and even in losing, he'd likely still have the strong support of the LSU Nation...had he done it. Instead, he chose to be stubborn according to some odd personal code, at the expense of the team, school, fans, and other stakeholders.

He must earn everything back in my opinion.

then how do you explain the Auburn Flynn to Byrd pass when he could have kicked?

that was before he had the security in his job to tinker with his dream: installing the Bo-Schem-Miles offense extravaganza.

Now that, hopefully, he's seen the devastating consequences of such an endeavor, he'll give in to a wiser course to winning.