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Did Miles get fired for standing with Cameron?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:20 pm
I ask this question because I'm thinking back to the events of last November.
I think that all of the talk at the end of last season was a power struggle between the Administration/Miles and TAF. TAF wanted change, especially on offence and they made a play which was unsuccessful. Miles came out on top and instead of replacing his buddy with a more innovative OC, he keeps Cameron.
Now, fast forward 10 months and nothing has changed on offense. None of the off-season promises have come to fruition. We still have the same old boring, antiquated, predictable offense.
I'm guessing that one of two things happened:
#1- Miles made a deal last December to save his and Cameron's jobs that fell apart with a weak offense and 2 early season losses.
#2 - TAF finally had enough and forced the Administration's hand to make needed changes.
Either way, I think Miles lost his job by stubbornly protecting his friend. If Miles replaces Cameron after last season, I think he's still the coach, even with a 2-2 record.
I think that all of the talk at the end of last season was a power struggle between the Administration/Miles and TAF. TAF wanted change, especially on offence and they made a play which was unsuccessful. Miles came out on top and instead of replacing his buddy with a more innovative OC, he keeps Cameron.
Now, fast forward 10 months and nothing has changed on offense. None of the off-season promises have come to fruition. We still have the same old boring, antiquated, predictable offense.
I'm guessing that one of two things happened:
#1- Miles made a deal last December to save his and Cameron's jobs that fell apart with a weak offense and 2 early season losses.
#2 - TAF finally had enough and forced the Administration's hand to make needed changes.
Either way, I think Miles lost his job by stubbornly protecting his friend. If Miles replaces Cameron after last season, I think he's still the coach, even with a 2-2 record.
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:21 pm to MAJ 8ch
Yes keeping Cam cost Les his job
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:22 pm to MAJ 8ch
This is like arguing over how loud a gun shot was. The only thing that matters is the trigger was pulled.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:22 pm to MAJ 8ch
It's like a contest. Start this thread and get a 3 piece from Popeyes.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:26 pm to MAJ 8ch
seems so.
If he had gotten a new OC and shown an effort, then the jury would still be out.
If he had gotten a new OC and shown an effort, then the jury would still be out.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:28 pm to therick711
quote:
This is like arguing over how loud a gun shot was. The only thing that matters is the trigger was pulled.
Well said!
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:29 pm to MAJ 8ch
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:37 pm to MAJ 8ch
quote:Miles pulled a Dinardo and remained loyal to his friend/coach and ultimately it cost him both jobs.
Either way, I think Miles lost his job by stubbornly protecting his friend. If Miles replaces Cameron after last season, I think he's still the coach, even with a 2-2 record.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:37 pm to t00f
quote:They probably told that to Chavis to try to keep him around. Eventually he gave up waiting.
According to nola.com Chavis says they have been trying to fire Miles 2014 or prior.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:39 pm to MAJ 8ch
Miles' anchor was Cameron, similar to DiNardo's anchor: Tepper.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:40 pm to t00f
They wasted years.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:51 pm to diehardfan
Cam Cameron I would like you to meet my friend Lou Tepper.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:57 pm to Oddibe
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Miles pulled a Dinardo and remained loyal to his friend/coach and ultimately it cost him both jobs.
Isn't it much more likely that they fired Cam so they didn't have to pay him because of his contract's Les Miles clause?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:13 pm to ipodking
what was the hype on cam he was offensive coordinator and a terrible one thats why the ravens fired him on their super bowl run
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:14 pm to MAJ 8ch
It may become a narrative but we all know Les' issues predate Cam.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:16 pm to dabigfella
I'll never understand why Cameron didn't leave on his own last fall. He knew he was at the center of the storm, and getting a new OC would have bought Miles some time.
I get that he didn't want to give up the cash, but his friend kept him handsomely employed when no one else wanted him for 4+ years. That should have counted for something.
I get that he didn't want to give up the cash, but his friend kept him handsomely employed when no one else wanted him for 4+ years. That should have counted for something.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:22 pm to MAJ 8ch
quote:Les got fired for undercoaching the offense. Blame that on Cam if you'd like, but the poorest performance relative to talent was the O-line. That is far more Les than Cam IMO.
Did Miles get fired for standing with Cameron?
Les has a history of stubbornly sticking with obvious underperformers, whether it be coaches or players. While there is a wonderfully anti-Saban human quality to that attribute, it cannot come at severe cost to result. In this case it did. Offensive scheme and execution vs AU and Wisconsin was deplorable.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:33 pm to panzer
quote:
seems so.
If he had gotten a new OC and shown an effort, then the jury would still be out.
yup. i got from a good source that Les gave cc complete control over offense.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:37 pm to MAJ 8ch
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Did Miles get fired for standing with Cameron? by MAJ 8ch
Certainly not! Miles was fired because of the general lack of discipline on the team.
Miles was because Malachi turned toward the field instead of the sideline.
Miles was fired because they ran 20 seconds off the clock instead of spiking the ball.
Miles was fired because he skipped entire position groups in his annual recruiting classes.
Miles was fired because JC Copeland had to cream that Bama player after the whistle.
Miles was fired because...
...because of a general lack of discipline.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:39 pm to Penrod
quote:
Certainly not! Miles was fired because of the general lack of discipline on the team.
Miles was because Malachi turned toward the field instead of the sideline.
Miles was fired because they ran 20 seconds off the clock instead of spiking the ball.
Miles was fired because he skipped entire position groups in his annual recruiting classes.
Miles was fired because JC Copeland had to cream that Bama player after the whistle.
Miles was fired because...
...because of a general lack of discipline.
True. He gave CC control over offense. Thats was his undoing.
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