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re: Danielle Hunter should of stayed another year! Does anyone Agree.

Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by Dunk47
Member since Jan 2014
1059 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:35 pm to
Should HAVE

not should of
Posted by Vito Andolini
Member since Sep 2009
1879 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:37 pm to
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That's just not true at all.

He was an elite defender against the run.

Whether or not he should have stayed is entirely based on where he is drafted. If he's drafted in the top 2 rounds, it's a no brainer good decision for himself.

If he's drafted in the 5th round on down, then I'd agree he made a poor decision given his upside


If he is drafted lower than the 2nd round he made a bad decision, and that is why the NFL changed their advisory grades to:

First round
Second round
Stay in school

I have not seen it reported anywhere what he actually got back from the NFL advisory committee.

Posted by Tigersport2014
Member since Aug 2014
824 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:09 pm to
..Yes , I agree .. but wattah unda da bridgz
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:12 pm to
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80% of the drafted players don't make it to a second contract so this is kind of a stupid premise for people to rely on




But don't higher drafted players get more initial $$$?
The difference could be huge in that first contract, so staying to elevate your draft rounds makes sense.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14973 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:35 pm to
"should of" "would of"

who ARE you people?!
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 5:38 pm
Posted by tiger in the gump
Member since Jan 2005
775 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:28 pm to
dude maxed out his potential, he wasn't going to get much better
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:52 pm to
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3rd round, scout team one year, then out of NFL


even if that were to be true, another year in playing college wouldn't have made a difference. Whether he should have gone or stayed really depends on his circumstances and goals. If his dream was to play in the NFL, why put it off another year? The NFL can evaluate him as a junior and can project his development. Yes he would have been more developed as a player after another year but he will be even more developed with that year in the NFL over another year in college.
Posted by Louisianimal83
Lithia Springs, GA
Member since Jan 2009
1606 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:11 pm to
These are the same things you guys said Tyrann, Odell and countless other guys. You guys suck as talent evaluators The kid will be a pretty darn good 3-4 OLB.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19970 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:20 pm to
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80% of the drafted players don't make it to a second contract so this is kind of a stupid premise for people to rely on


People recycle the same stupid shite around here.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19970 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:24 pm to
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But for how long.. Dude is horrible..


No he isn't retard. He worked his way into the rotation throughout the year. He may have gone early, and he certainly didn't live up to his HS rep, but you don't have to make shite up.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
8971 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:25 pm to
I agree but he gone
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9112 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:29 pm to
Yet if he would of stayed Freak that is he could be making 700k a year. Kwon and D Hunter didn't get good draft evaluations that's the thing. They were told be professionals to come back bc they would be 3rd round or later so yes it would have paid to come back. Big time. I guess Collins made a ad decision going from 500K a year guy to now a 1st round pick and guaranteed money and spot on a team for 5 years. Some people are just dumb by saying, well they making the minimum at least. Yeah for 2 to 3 years and then what? Oh and they don't have that degree either. Good Luck
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4927 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:38 pm to
Yes
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:50 pm to
I can't blame him for leaving.

Hunter is going to be a 3rd round pick at the latest, most likely a 2nd rounder(some scouts think he can slip into the late 1st). And he will do great at the combine and drop some jaws. He could have stayed another year and possibly become a 1st rounder, but he also could have gotten hurt, stock stays the same, stock lowers, etc. He's a very high potential player.

Kwon should have gone as well IMO. His stock would not improve that much if he stayed due to his size. He's a mid round pick who will outplay his draft status. And his size isn't that big a deal as some people think it is. He's 6'2 230lbs... CJ Mosley was a 1st rounder last year and pro bowler and most likely NFL defensive ROY, and was just 3-4lbs heavier. Damn near the same size. Kwon is a natural LB and very instinctive and quick. Plus, with the way the game is played today, you gotta be able to play sideline to sideline and have agility and lateral movement. Kwon has that. Mid round pick that will outperform his draft status.

And the NFL rookie wage scale pretty much encourages players to go early. IMO, the whole new draft eval process was just a PR by the NFL. It makes it seem like the NFL wants mid to late rounders to stay another year, but the $$$ says something different. Plus, it's just someone's opinion and there's no way to predict how a player will do in the NFL. Think of all the guys taken in the 4th or later that have done really well... There's a lot. But unless you're a top 20pick, the big $$$ contracts don't come until their 2nd contract. I mean there is very little difference between a 3rd round pick and a 6th round pick. About $100,000K a year difference.

Trai Turner - 3rd round pick (92overall). 4yrs $2.78m. $539,800 guaranteed.

Alfred Blue - 6th rounder (181overall). 4yrs $2.37m. $191,160 guaranteed.

Not a big difference. And at the same time, CJ Mosley was taken #17overall and makes just $2.1 a year.

So what does that say to the JR that's a 5th rounder... Well first, not many guys go from a 5th rounder to a lottery pick in 1 year. It just doesn't happen. Secondly, the kid sits there and looks at the pay scale and thinks to himself "I could improve to a 3rd rounder... But the $$$ is still damn near the same as a 5th rounder. Might as well go now, get to the NFL early and healthy, and make $$$ instead of going back to college and risk injury. Yes my stock could improve to a 3rd rounder, but it also could stay the same or get worse. Not everyone's stock gets better. And I could get hurt."



This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 7:53 pm
Posted by lakelanier
Member since Oct 2014
972 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 8:21 pm to
These are very excellent points. If Hunter goes by the third round, he has made a good decision. He has all the physical tools but he never showed the ability to really take over a series.

He was a good player but never dominant.
Posted by Rabid Tiger
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2003
3694 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:38 pm to
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Yes.. Someone was blowing smoke up this kids arse.. He has a amazing physique.. But his play was blow average.. Wouldn't say a bust.. For example freak.. He was a bust


So if he's below average, why do you want him back?
Posted by BIG CAT
louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
3555 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 10:03 pm to
He just never had a coach to coach him up,we will see a big change this year
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43074 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:04 am to
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Yet if he would of stayed Freak that is he could be making 700k a year. Kwon and D Hunter didn't get good draft evaluations that's the thing. They were told be professionals to come back bc they would be 3rd round or later so yes it would have paid to come back. Big time. I guess Collins made a ad decision going from 500K a year guy to now a 1st round pick and guaranteed money and spot on a team for 5 years. Some people are just dumb by saying, well they making the minimum at least. Yeah for 2 to 3 years and then what? Oh and they don't have that degree either. Good Luck
You cant compare freak to Lael. Freak was never going to be a first round pick, not even close. Lael did very well by staying another year no question but imo it wouldn't have made any difference with freak.
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:56 am to
He should have, but only because I wanted him to.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3616 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:06 am to
I was just thinking this morning that too many LSU athletes (FB and BB) seem to be lured away but what must seem like a ton of money. However, unless they have a realistic shot at a contract where they are guaranteed at least $3M, without doing more research, I think they need to stay for their own good. How many of the guys that left early over the last few years can rely on a steady paycheck? Reid, HB, PP, Mingo, OBJ, Randle, Jarvis, Turner, a few others - maybe half the guys that left early. How many have left school without a degree made about $400K for 2 or 3 years and don't have a real shot at anything else? I know $400K sounds like a lot to a college kid but it really isn't a sound long-term plan. I'm glad to see we had fewer people leave early this year and that all who did seem to have a decent shot but it still seems like too many leave early. I'm hoping DH and Kwon make it but I really think they increase their chances of long-term success if they stay.
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