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re: Danielle Hunter should of stayed another year! Does anyone Agree.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:35 pm to Tigers smash Bama
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:35 pm to Tigers smash Bama
Should HAVE
not should of
not should of
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:37 pm to moneyg
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That's just not true at all.
He was an elite defender against the run.
Whether or not he should have stayed is entirely based on where he is drafted. If he's drafted in the top 2 rounds, it's a no brainer good decision for himself.
If he's drafted in the 5th round on down, then I'd agree he made a poor decision given his upside
If he is drafted lower than the 2nd round he made a bad decision, and that is why the NFL changed their advisory grades to:
First round
Second round
Stay in school
I have not seen it reported anywhere what he actually got back from the NFL advisory committee.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:09 pm to Tigers smash Bama
..Yes , I agree .. but wattah unda da bridgz
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:12 pm to LSUNV
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80% of the drafted players don't make it to a second contract so this is kind of a stupid premise for people to rely on
But don't higher drafted players get more initial $$$?
The difference could be huge in that first contract, so staying to elevate your draft rounds makes sense.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:35 pm to Tigers smash Bama
"should of" "would of"
who ARE you people?!
who ARE you people?!
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:28 pm to SpookeyTiger
dude maxed out his potential, he wasn't going to get much better
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:52 pm to jeffsdad
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3rd round, scout team one year, then out of NFL
even if that were to be true, another year in playing college wouldn't have made a difference. Whether he should have gone or stayed really depends on his circumstances and goals. If his dream was to play in the NFL, why put it off another year? The NFL can evaluate him as a junior and can project his development. Yes he would have been more developed as a player after another year but he will be even more developed with that year in the NFL over another year in college.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:11 pm to Tigers smash Bama
These are the same things you guys said Tyrann, Odell and countless other guys. You guys suck as talent evaluators The kid will be a pretty darn good 3-4 OLB.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:20 pm to LSUNV
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80% of the drafted players don't make it to a second contract so this is kind of a stupid premise for people to rely on
People recycle the same stupid shite around here.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:24 pm to Tigers smash Bama
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But for how long.. Dude is horrible..
No he isn't retard. He worked his way into the rotation throughout the year. He may have gone early, and he certainly didn't live up to his HS rep, but you don't have to make shite up.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:25 pm to Tigers smash Bama
I agree but he gone
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:29 pm to The Mick
Yet if he would of stayed Freak that is he could be making 700k a year. Kwon and D Hunter didn't get good draft evaluations that's the thing. They were told be professionals to come back bc they would be 3rd round or later so yes it would have paid to come back. Big time. I guess Collins made a ad decision going from 500K a year guy to now a 1st round pick and guaranteed money and spot on a team for 5 years. Some people are just dumb by saying, well they making the minimum at least. Yeah for 2 to 3 years and then what? Oh and they don't have that degree either. Good Luck
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:50 pm to Tigers smash Bama
I can't blame him for leaving.
Hunter is going to be a 3rd round pick at the latest, most likely a 2nd rounder(some scouts think he can slip into the late 1st). And he will do great at the combine and drop some jaws. He could have stayed another year and possibly become a 1st rounder, but he also could have gotten hurt, stock stays the same, stock lowers, etc. He's a very high potential player.
Kwon should have gone as well IMO. His stock would not improve that much if he stayed due to his size. He's a mid round pick who will outplay his draft status. And his size isn't that big a deal as some people think it is. He's 6'2 230lbs... CJ Mosley was a 1st rounder last year and pro bowler and most likely NFL defensive ROY, and was just 3-4lbs heavier. Damn near the same size. Kwon is a natural LB and very instinctive and quick. Plus, with the way the game is played today, you gotta be able to play sideline to sideline and have agility and lateral movement. Kwon has that. Mid round pick that will outperform his draft status.
And the NFL rookie wage scale pretty much encourages players to go early. IMO, the whole new draft eval process was just a PR by the NFL. It makes it seem like the NFL wants mid to late rounders to stay another year, but the $$$ says something different. Plus, it's just someone's opinion and there's no way to predict how a player will do in the NFL. Think of all the guys taken in the 4th or later that have done really well... There's a lot. But unless you're a top 20pick, the big $$$ contracts don't come until their 2nd contract. I mean there is very little difference between a 3rd round pick and a 6th round pick. About $100,000K a year difference.
Trai Turner - 3rd round pick (92overall). 4yrs $2.78m. $539,800 guaranteed.
Alfred Blue - 6th rounder (181overall). 4yrs $2.37m. $191,160 guaranteed.
Not a big difference. And at the same time, CJ Mosley was taken #17overall and makes just $2.1 a year.
So what does that say to the JR that's a 5th rounder... Well first, not many guys go from a 5th rounder to a lottery pick in 1 year. It just doesn't happen. Secondly, the kid sits there and looks at the pay scale and thinks to himself "I could improve to a 3rd rounder... But the $$$ is still damn near the same as a 5th rounder. Might as well go now, get to the NFL early and healthy, and make $$$ instead of going back to college and risk injury. Yes my stock could improve to a 3rd rounder, but it also could stay the same or get worse. Not everyone's stock gets better. And I could get hurt."
Hunter is going to be a 3rd round pick at the latest, most likely a 2nd rounder(some scouts think he can slip into the late 1st). And he will do great at the combine and drop some jaws. He could have stayed another year and possibly become a 1st rounder, but he also could have gotten hurt, stock stays the same, stock lowers, etc. He's a very high potential player.
Kwon should have gone as well IMO. His stock would not improve that much if he stayed due to his size. He's a mid round pick who will outplay his draft status. And his size isn't that big a deal as some people think it is. He's 6'2 230lbs... CJ Mosley was a 1st rounder last year and pro bowler and most likely NFL defensive ROY, and was just 3-4lbs heavier. Damn near the same size. Kwon is a natural LB and very instinctive and quick. Plus, with the way the game is played today, you gotta be able to play sideline to sideline and have agility and lateral movement. Kwon has that. Mid round pick that will outperform his draft status.
And the NFL rookie wage scale pretty much encourages players to go early. IMO, the whole new draft eval process was just a PR by the NFL. It makes it seem like the NFL wants mid to late rounders to stay another year, but the $$$ says something different. Plus, it's just someone's opinion and there's no way to predict how a player will do in the NFL. Think of all the guys taken in the 4th or later that have done really well... There's a lot. But unless you're a top 20pick, the big $$$ contracts don't come until their 2nd contract. I mean there is very little difference between a 3rd round pick and a 6th round pick. About $100,000K a year difference.
Trai Turner - 3rd round pick (92overall). 4yrs $2.78m. $539,800 guaranteed.
Alfred Blue - 6th rounder (181overall). 4yrs $2.37m. $191,160 guaranteed.
Not a big difference. And at the same time, CJ Mosley was taken #17overall and makes just $2.1 a year.
So what does that say to the JR that's a 5th rounder... Well first, not many guys go from a 5th rounder to a lottery pick in 1 year. It just doesn't happen. Secondly, the kid sits there and looks at the pay scale and thinks to himself "I could improve to a 3rd rounder... But the $$$ is still damn near the same as a 5th rounder. Might as well go now, get to the NFL early and healthy, and make $$$ instead of going back to college and risk injury. Yes my stock could improve to a 3rd rounder, but it also could stay the same or get worse. Not everyone's stock gets better. And I could get hurt."
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 8:21 pm to KG5989
These are very excellent points. If Hunter goes by the third round, he has made a good decision. He has all the physical tools but he never showed the ability to really take over a series.
He was a good player but never dominant.
He was a good player but never dominant.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:38 pm to Tigers smash Bama
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Yes.. Someone was blowing smoke up this kids arse.. He has a amazing physique.. But his play was blow average.. Wouldn't say a bust.. For example freak.. He was a bust
So if he's below average, why do you want him back?
Posted on 1/30/15 at 10:03 pm to Tigers smash Bama
He just never had a coach to coach him up,we will see a big change this year
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:04 am to BayouBengal99
quote:You cant compare freak to Lael. Freak was never going to be a first round pick, not even close. Lael did very well by staying another year no question but imo it wouldn't have made any difference with freak.
Yet if he would of stayed Freak that is he could be making 700k a year. Kwon and D Hunter didn't get good draft evaluations that's the thing. They were told be professionals to come back bc they would be 3rd round or later so yes it would have paid to come back. Big time. I guess Collins made a ad decision going from 500K a year guy to now a 1st round pick and guaranteed money and spot on a team for 5 years. Some people are just dumb by saying, well they making the minimum at least. Yeah for 2 to 3 years and then what? Oh and they don't have that degree either. Good Luck
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:56 am to The Mick
He should have, but only because I wanted him to.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:06 am to Tigers smash Bama
I was just thinking this morning that too many LSU athletes (FB and BB) seem to be lured away but what must seem like a ton of money. However, unless they have a realistic shot at a contract where they are guaranteed at least $3M, without doing more research, I think they need to stay for their own good. How many of the guys that left early over the last few years can rely on a steady paycheck? Reid, HB, PP, Mingo, OBJ, Randle, Jarvis, Turner, a few others - maybe half the guys that left early. How many have left school without a degree made about $400K for 2 or 3 years and don't have a real shot at anything else? I know $400K sounds like a lot to a college kid but it really isn't a sound long-term plan. I'm glad to see we had fewer people leave early this year and that all who did seem to have a decent shot but it still seems like too many leave early. I'm hoping DH and Kwon make it but I really think they increase their chances of long-term success if they stay.
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