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Confessions of A PosiTiger-Or how I learned to quit worrying and embrace reality
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:04 pm
I have been a Les Miles supporter since Day one. I'm talking about since the plane left Stillwater. In my estimation, Les Miles was a great hire in 2005, deserves his spot in the pantheon of great LSU coaches, and has tremendous character and personal integrity.
But as an LSU fan since the mid 1970's, a graduate of LSU, a season ticket holder and a sometimes financial contributor, I have made reluctant peace with the thought of Les leaving under the current circumstances.The LSU football program is undeniably moribund and stagnant.
The truth is, going to games has become an exercise in frustration for me. As much as I personally like and respect Les and want to see a "good guy" win it is obvious over the last four years that he has peaked and this thing is on a downward trajectory. If I believed he could continue winning at an 80% clip and that the post 2011 slide would stop, I'd support keeping him.
For me LSU football has become uninspired and tedious. Even with a generational player like Leonard Fournette, I sit in the stadium year after year,watching an inept quarterback ,an unimaginative scheme, talented players going largely unused, game after game with a perpetual face palm. Taking away the awesome tailgating, the brotherhood and the pageantry, going to LSU games has actually become more stressful than joyful. Flame away, but I know a lot of people who have expressed the same general feeling.
I am willing to accept the risk that we may make a bad hire, and that this could possibly be a mistake. Hiring a coach is not a science,it's always risky, at best it's an educated guess, and you need a certain amount of magic and good fortune. Fortunately everything is in place for success in a way that it was not in 2000, including tremendous resources and a Football Culture that has tremendous passion and loyalty towards LSU .
It's time. Les Miles, God Bless him, has run his course at LSU. I am under no illusions that the next coach will last as long, win as consistently as Les did over his eleven year run,or run a better program. But this current incarnation of Les Miles LSU football is 100% played out.We have squeezed all the blood out of that stone. It is time to make a great informed hire, cross our fingers, and hope better days are ahead.
But as an LSU fan since the mid 1970's, a graduate of LSU, a season ticket holder and a sometimes financial contributor, I have made reluctant peace with the thought of Les leaving under the current circumstances.The LSU football program is undeniably moribund and stagnant.
The truth is, going to games has become an exercise in frustration for me. As much as I personally like and respect Les and want to see a "good guy" win it is obvious over the last four years that he has peaked and this thing is on a downward trajectory. If I believed he could continue winning at an 80% clip and that the post 2011 slide would stop, I'd support keeping him.
For me LSU football has become uninspired and tedious. Even with a generational player like Leonard Fournette, I sit in the stadium year after year,watching an inept quarterback ,an unimaginative scheme, talented players going largely unused, game after game with a perpetual face palm. Taking away the awesome tailgating, the brotherhood and the pageantry, going to LSU games has actually become more stressful than joyful. Flame away, but I know a lot of people who have expressed the same general feeling.
I am willing to accept the risk that we may make a bad hire, and that this could possibly be a mistake. Hiring a coach is not a science,it's always risky, at best it's an educated guess, and you need a certain amount of magic and good fortune. Fortunately everything is in place for success in a way that it was not in 2000, including tremendous resources and a Football Culture that has tremendous passion and loyalty towards LSU .
It's time. Les Miles, God Bless him, has run his course at LSU. I am under no illusions that the next coach will last as long, win as consistently as Les did over his eleven year run,or run a better program. But this current incarnation of Les Miles LSU football is 100% played out.We have squeezed all the blood out of that stone. It is time to make a great informed hire, cross our fingers, and hope better days are ahead.
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:05 pm to Lsupimp
Bravo! That could have been written by me.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:07 pm to Lsupimp
Well understood. Its time to move on.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:08 pm to Lsupimp
yeah pretty much that.
I'd have probably prefered they come out at jump and quash all this and work toward 2016 but that didn't happen so it's time to thank him, honor him for his time here, respect what he has done and recall it fondly.
good post Pimp
I'd have probably prefered they come out at jump and quash all this and work toward 2016 but that didn't happen so it's time to thank him, honor him for his time here, respect what he has done and recall it fondly.
good post Pimp
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:10 pm to Lsupimp
Well said!
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:10 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Great post 
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:12 pm to Lsupimp
BIG pimpin' !!!
my sentiments exactly. no hate here. love the man as acoach and guy. appreciate what he's done, but he has reached his shelf life. i remember a time when it was more fun. this program and fanbase needs a shot in the arm. its like watching the bad final seasons of a once in a generational tv show.
my sentiments exactly. no hate here. love the man as acoach and guy. appreciate what he's done, but he has reached his shelf life. i remember a time when it was more fun. this program and fanbase needs a shot in the arm. its like watching the bad final seasons of a once in a generational tv show.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:12 pm to Lsupimp
Solid post. I think most would agree.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:13 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:16 pm to Lsupimp
Pretty much 100% how I feel
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:17 pm to Lsupimp
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I am willing to accept the risk that we may make a bad hire, and that this could possibly be a mistake.
Here is where I don't agree with you. I'm not willing to take that chance and I don't see why LSU should. A better option would be to show some patience; hiring the next coach at LSU is all about timing and the timing now does not look good. Bama, OSU, and Michigan all made great hires because the timing was perfect. Texas, Nebraska, and others forced the issue and made huge mistakes.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:25 pm to Lsupimp
I still love Les (no homo), and will not speak a bad word about him. I too agree that it's time to move on.
The thing that did it for me is the team's regression as this season has progressed.
Look at the way Alabama has gotten better throughout the course of the season. While I wouldn't say I "expect" that level of improvement, I do at the very least expect to see SOME improvement from week one to week 10. That the team not only hasn't improved but has seemingly gone backward is on the coaching staff.
I get why Les hired Steele, but in hindsight it appears that Orgeron and Raymond weren't worth the schematic deficiencies attached to Steele.
Hopefully the next coach will bring in position coaches who can coach up and recruit at an equal or better clip than Raymond, Wilson and Orgeron.
Even Peveto is a solid recruiter, although his recruiting prowess isn't nearly enough to justify the damage he has done to our special teams.
The thing that did it for me is the team's regression as this season has progressed.
Look at the way Alabama has gotten better throughout the course of the season. While I wouldn't say I "expect" that level of improvement, I do at the very least expect to see SOME improvement from week one to week 10. That the team not only hasn't improved but has seemingly gone backward is on the coaching staff.
I get why Les hired Steele, but in hindsight it appears that Orgeron and Raymond weren't worth the schematic deficiencies attached to Steele.
Hopefully the next coach will bring in position coaches who can coach up and recruit at an equal or better clip than Raymond, Wilson and Orgeron.
Even Peveto is a solid recruiter, although his recruiting prowess isn't nearly enough to justify the damage he has done to our special teams.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:25 pm to jrodLSUke
I desperately wanted a 10-2 or 9-3 season this year, we'd be set up for a NC run and we would win and Les would retire. 
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:37 pm to barry
I too had the fairy tale ending in my head. Fournette with a Heisman, LSU vanquishing Alabama,LSU winning the SEC, Les retiring as conquering hero, the field being named Les Miles Field at Tiger Stadium, etc.
I do has the sadz.
Not saying I don't.
But I yield to reality.
I do has the sadz.
Not saying I don't.
But I yield to reality.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:41 pm to Lsupimp
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I have been a Les Miles supporter since Day one.
Everyone is saying this. Why is that?Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:43 pm to Lsupimp
I've taken the "it is what it is .. I'm only a fan" attitude. Not a damn thing I can do about it.
I will however, lol a LOT if Jimbo doesn't end up here.
Oh, and I'm sad as well Pimp. Les' autographed pic though will stay here ... sort of near Saban's.
I will however, lol a LOT if Jimbo doesn't end up here.
Oh, and I'm sad as well Pimp. Les' autographed pic though will stay here ... sort of near Saban's.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:44 pm to Lsupimp
I agree that Miles has run his course with the program. However, this is some chicken-shite move by the AD and boosters to foster in the change... feels eerily similar to the way the Chavis move went down.
I just hope that Alleva doesn't try to find a new HC with the stipulation that he has to retain Orgeron, Raymond, Wilson, Grimes, etc., IMO, that's how we ended up with Kevin Steele (a position coach) instead of Bob Shoop (consecutive Top 10 defenses at Penn State).
I just hope that Alleva doesn't try to find a new HC with the stipulation that he has to retain Orgeron, Raymond, Wilson, Grimes, etc., IMO, that's how we ended up with Kevin Steele (a position coach) instead of Bob Shoop (consecutive Top 10 defenses at Penn State).
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:44 pm to Lsupimp
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Lsupimp
Bravo..............Well said....
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:45 pm to CarRamrod
Because I was. I am a cfb junkie, was a CU ticket holder before that time, so I followed the Big 12 and I was a fan when he was at OSU. I came on this board and said it was a good hire and people thought I was a lunatic.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:48 pm to Lsupimp
Thank you OP. I needed this. It's like you summed up my thoughts.
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