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re: Coaches & Players Getting Mad
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:13 am to gametimehoop
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:13 am to gametimehoop
I'm not a big Miles supporter - and I look forward to the day when our program goes in another direction - but seeing Derek Mason jump and down fighting mad on the sidelines like a wild comanche makes me appreciate the calmer side of CLM. I'll insert Muscamp into the same comparison (i.e. a wild comanche) so no one will accuse me of being racist.
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:13 am to gametimehoop
There's a difference between being a raving lunatic like Will Muschamp or Frank Martin and actually exhibiting some degree of emotion that displays a passion for winning the game.
Watch any successful college basketball coach. Coach K, Self, Izzo, Calipari, etc. They're aren't combative assholes like Bob Knight, but you can clearly see their passion for winning during the game. They rarely sit still. They hold guys accountable when bad plays are made, but they are also pleading, cheering, encouraging their teams when big plays are needed. They're living and dying with their players on the court. Their players feed off of that passion.
At times Jones and to a much lesser extent, Miles, look like they could not give any less of a shite about what's happening on the field. If your leader doesn't appear to care about correcting mistakes, holding guys accountable, or exhibiting any general passion for winning, why would you expect the players to do so?
Last night LSU looked as if they couldn't care any less about being run out of the gym by a lesser team. All the while, Jones just sat there like a fan staring blankly into space. I don't need a coach constantly chewing someone out for a mistake, but God Damn, show some kind of natural human emotion that makes someone think you actually care about winning the game
Watch any successful college basketball coach. Coach K, Self, Izzo, Calipari, etc. They're aren't combative assholes like Bob Knight, but you can clearly see their passion for winning during the game. They rarely sit still. They hold guys accountable when bad plays are made, but they are also pleading, cheering, encouraging their teams when big plays are needed. They're living and dying with their players on the court. Their players feed off of that passion.
At times Jones and to a much lesser extent, Miles, look like they could not give any less of a shite about what's happening on the field. If your leader doesn't appear to care about correcting mistakes, holding guys accountable, or exhibiting any general passion for winning, why would you expect the players to do so?
Last night LSU looked as if they couldn't care any less about being run out of the gym by a lesser team. All the while, Jones just sat there like a fan staring blankly into space. I don't need a coach constantly chewing someone out for a mistake, but God Damn, show some kind of natural human emotion that makes someone think you actually care about winning the game
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:14 am to gametimehoop
well miles needs to leave because nothing is gonna change same ole bullshite offense
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:15 am to Salmon
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well you seemed to type the OP with great emotion
How could you tell I wrote the OP with great emotion? Did my sign-off tip my hand?
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Signed, Mad Tiger Fan.
Good get bro....
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:26 am to gametimehoop
You must have loved Tom Landry. Just think how much better the Dallas Cowboys would have been had Landry showed any kind of emotion. Sorry, you don't have a clue.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:33 am to gametimehoop
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Does he know we WANT him to YELL at somebody when they screw up?
I'm quite CERTAIN that he neither KNOWS nor CARES what you think about anything. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:33 am to gametimehoop
Good point. Maybe hitting the player in the face with your fist when he leaves the field would wake him up. Show him that a mistake is intolerable.
Jumping up an down and screaming like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum has been proven over and over to be a effective coaching technique.
Congratulations on your successful 7th grade athletic career.
Jumping up an down and screaming like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum has been proven over and over to be a effective coaching technique.
Congratulations on your successful 7th grade athletic career.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:38 am to Choupique19
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Lets hire Pelini and muschamp den
Both won national titles at LSU.
And were fired for failing miserably at their head coaching job.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:50 am to gametimehoop
quote:What?
No one wants to compete.
quote:You think yelling and anger = coaching?
I was coached harder in the 7th grade than our basketball and football players are at LSU.
quote:What in the actual frick?
Does he know we WANT him to YELL at somebody when they screw up?
quote:You are mad, and stupid.
Someone Get Mad and Compete!!!!
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:53 am to BeeFense5
It's more about passion and intensity. We could care less if he yells. At least appear to care
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:55 am to AlxTgr
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There's a difference between being a raving lunatic like Will Muschamp or Frank Martin and actually exhibiting some degree of emotion that displays a passion for winning the game.
Watch any successful college basketball coach. Coach K, Self, Izzo, Calipari, etc. They're aren't combative a-holes like Bob Knight, but you can clearly see their passion for winning during the game. They rarely sit still. They hold guys accountable when bad plays are made, but they are also pleading, cheering, encouraging their teams when big plays are needed. They're living and dying with their players on the court. Their players feed off of that passion.
At times Jones and to a much lesser extent, Miles, look like they could not give any less of a shite about what's happening on the field. If your leader doesn't appear to care about correcting mistakes, holding guys accountable, or exhibiting any general passion for winning, why would you expect the players to do so?
Last night LSU looked as if they couldn't care any less about being run out of the gym by a lesser team. All the while, Jones just sat there like a fan staring blankly into space. I don't need a coach constantly chewing someone out for a mistake, but God Damn, show some kind of natural human emotion that makes someone think you actually care about winning the game
I'll quote this again... I encourage you to read it. Well put by another poster.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:57 am to gametimehoop
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It's more about passion and intensity. We could care less if he yells. At least appear to care
Correct. Excuse me if my point did not come across as you would have liked.
But this is the truth. You must agree with this at least.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:07 pm to gametimehoop
I bet you're the kind of guy who gets in fist fights with his son.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:11 pm to gametimehoop
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I'll quote this again... I encourage you to read it. Well put by another poster.
Yeah, well, I just don't agree when it comes to Miles. No opinion on JJ.
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At times Jones and to a much lesser extent, Miles, look like they could not give any less of a shite about what's happening on the field.
He clearly gives a shite
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:12 pm to gametimehoop
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If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm.
Vince Lombardi
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:16 pm to AlxTgr
Great link.. I'd like to see more of this.. Only when warranted.
Again, my BH example from Ole Miss would be one of them.
Again, my BH example from Ole Miss would be one of them.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:16 pm to gametimehoop
Bs, you can care without being NS mad. They have to be held accountable for doing their jobs correctly.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:17 pm to gametimehoop
Why is it that some people think yelling it people is how you get them to improve.
I manage teams of 80 people in a high hazard industry. Have done this internationally as well. The teams have been very successful and I can't ever remember yelling at anyone to deliver improvement.
I manage teams of 80 people in a high hazard industry. Have done this internationally as well. The teams have been very successful and I can't ever remember yelling at anyone to deliver improvement.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:23 pm to Choupique19
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If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm.
Vince Lombardi
Bill Belichick agrees.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:26 pm to gametimehoop
quote:The cameras do not catch everything. I can remember, but not link, some pretty spirited discussions with players after stupid personal fouls.
I'd like to see more of this.. Only when warranted.
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