re: Chavis: One year later

Well it's seems like you're saying just that.
Irrationally haiting on our head coach?? No he gets credit for being a great guy, excellent recruiter, and some good coaching hires like Chavis,Wilson, Orgeron. He also has to take the blame for not having successful OCs,qb, and having a not decent passing game for 6/7 past years. My point is when multiple fans were trashing Chavis earlier in this post I mentioned how Chavis bailed out the struggling offense for 6/7 years and we won because of Chief's defense. Chavis defense which Miles had zero input "bailed out " the struggling offense which we all know Miles had a lot of input. Ergo it's a team game but Chavis bailed Miles out for years. This isn't irrational haiting. BTW don't tell people to kill themselves you sound like an idiot.

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No doubt Chavis is top notch DC. He has proven it with his time in the SEC at TN/LSU. He can coordinate a defense and coach up talent. It is highly questionable if he has the skills or drive to recruit to the level necessary to compete in the SEC in the day of the 3 year players. His LB and DL depth was razor thin when he departed. There is something to his "third and Chavis" reputation and he did not fair well against Bama late in tight games. He could shut down ATM but, then again, so could Steele.

No doubt the "Les Clause" in his contract was the major motivation to leave - a financial decision. I don't think he took the high road on the way out. The defense was not ready for ND and he was on the phone with his new boss moments/hours before the game - that is not championship focus. He did not ride on the team charter home, went straight to work for ATM and made unnecessary comments about LSU's offense if his real motivation was to leave for financial security. I would have been impressed if he would have said, " loved my time at LSU but had to do what is best for my family".

He did a nice job of improving the ATM D, though not tough to do with the dumpster fire of a defense that existed in the recent seasons. I think the ATM expectations were more of a dominant defense not just better. (Similar to the expectations for the AU defense with Mushchamp).

I find it humorous to look back to see who ended up happier a year later. The ATM offense tanked AND THEN lost two 5* QBs. Miles almost getting fired made Chavis ALMOST look like a genius. Aranda's hire has to sting a bit. Maybe Chavis should switch to Aranda's agent. Aranda now has the deal that Chavis wanted with a loaded talent base and a quality recruiting/coaching staff.

This is probably a win/win. ATM made a good hire. Chavis got his deal/money. LSU ends up with a young, aggressive coach with a bright future. All in al,l I am pleased with how it worked out for LSU.

Chavis defense since 2012 were going in wrong direction. Yes we won alot with him but he needed to go. He was not getting the players to come here anymore and he is not going to do it at aTm.

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If Chavis wasn't hear in 09-10.LSU would have lost 5-6 games each of those years

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Well, Chavis wasn't here last year, and we only lost three. He won't be here next year, so we'll see if you're correct or not.

I agree with you the defense was getting worse those last two years, but from 09-14 he won us a bunch of games when our Offense/passing game was basically inept.

Hopefully Aranda can be even better than Chief we'll see what happens.

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That being said I will take up for Chief because he kept LSU winning from. 09-14. Yes the defense was getting worse in 13-14 but he still won us a bunch of games win our offense couldn't put up 17 points.

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That's dumb. But your own right.

Fact is Chavis relied on elite talent. He also had tremendous special teams behind him and a ball control eating time of possession offense. When he didn't have elite talent he was bad.. We had our best offense ever in 2013 and he fielded one of the worst defenses under Miles. Being young was no excuse for that. Chavis got extremely lazy recruiting recently and we are worlds better off without him. Even this past season, we were better without him.. we started addressing defensive needs.

Also our elite talent against weak OOC really bolstered our defensive stats. Even in Chavis' final year here LSU had the #1 ranked yardage defense in the SEC.. but that was just yardage.. His defense wasn't getting any game changing turnovers (no ints or ff), or sacks, and whatnot.. and in SEC play he had terrible games like the Auburn game we got blown out. The ND game and Mississippi st game weren't very good efforts.

And when the defense was good, he still found ways to blow important games late.

He was a good defensive coordinator here, but I'll be damned if I ever "take up" for him for the way he went out and just how lazy he got addressing defensive needs. Chief gone is very good for the future. He was getting lazy and old. Again, our recruiting, especially defensively is so much better now.

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LSu has had a ton of offensive talent the past 6 years but "most rational" fans would agree we don't maximize that talent.

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Here's a list of players that were drafted on offense the last 6 years. Guess which year stands out.

2010 (2) - Stevan Ridley (3rd), Joseph Barksdale (3rd)
2011 (1) - Rueben Randle (2nd)
2012 (1) - Spencer Ware (6th)
2013 (7) - Odell Beckham (1st), Jeremy Hill (2nd), Jarvis Landry (2nd), Trai Turner (3rd), Zach Mettenberger (6th), Alfred Blue (6th), James Wright (7th)
2014 (1) - Kenny Hilliard (7th)
2015 (2) - TBD (Jerald Hawkins, Vadal Alexander)

Now compare that to Defense

2010 (4) - Patrick Peterson (1st), Kelvin Sheppard (3rd), Drake Nevis (3rd), Lazarius Levingston (7th)
2011 (4) - Morris Claiborne (1st), Michael Brockers (1st), Brandon Taylor (3rd), Ron Brooks (4th)
2012 (8) - Keke Mingo (1st), Eric Reid (1st), Kevin Minter (2nd), Bennie Logan (3rd), Tyrann Mathieu (3rd), Sam Montgomery (3rd), Tharold Simon (5th), Lavar Edwards (5th)
2013 (2) - Ego Ferguson (2nd), Lamin Barrow (5th)
2014 (3) - Jalen Collins (2nd), Danielle Hunter (3rd), Kwon Alexander (4th)
2015 TBD (Jalen Mills, Deion Jones)

Now guess which years stand out on defense? Coaching has less to do with this that you like to think it does.

That 2011 offense was aided by a ton of turnovers, and punt returns setting them up in great field position. You have to look at every aspect of the game.

You said Les has 4/5 best offenses all time. 1 was under Jumbo Fisher directing the offense. 1 was under Crowton who kept a lot of Jimbo's philosphy
2011 our offense was good but replied heavily on turnovers and short field position.
2013 Matt, Jarvis, Odel, Hill. Arguably the best offensive talent. I'll give that one to Les and Cam's style of play but several of those best offenses were made possible by better OC or a filthy defense making people go 3 and out.

In closing Chavis was good and helped LsU's struggling offense for years. It was his time to go and hopefully Aranda does even better Geaux Tigers.