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Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:18 am to RedTigerRulz
O has done exactly what he needed to do up until this point in order to be successful. Retained Aranda. Hired Canada. Brought in some coaches that can both coach and recruit. Has recruited well. I didnt like the hire at first either, but he has impressed the hell out of me so far. On paper we look like a really tough team this fall, now we have to go out and perform.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:19 am to Mo Jeaux
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Only an idiot would not know that Les was a former OLineman, and that he had experience as an Offensive Coordinator.
Lol yea I had no idea. It's only fitting that his expertise was his downfall. O would coach circles around Leslie at their respective positions.
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Again, he wasn't fired because he had no philosophy.
I know it was because his "philosophy" was that of 10 yr old youth YMCA team
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:24 am to Howyouluhdat
There is nothing in my post about "hating" Kiffin. I do recognize his significant character flaws (immaturity, narcissism) which have made him a cancer in the programs he has worked in. His dismissal at SC and removal prior to the bowl game at Bama should give you some idea of the problem).
Kiffen would never consider Orgeron a peer, much less respect him as a head coach and it appears Kiffen allowed Da Coach O to get way down the road with the notion he might come to LSU at OC, with no intention to do so.
LSU inadvertently jumped over a snake when Kiffen went to Fl. to slay poon.
Kiffen would never consider Orgeron a peer, much less respect him as a head coach and it appears Kiffen allowed Da Coach O to get way down the road with the notion he might come to LSU at OC, with no intention to do so.
LSU inadvertently jumped over a snake when Kiffen went to Fl. to slay poon.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:49 am to RedTigerRulz
The leash is longer so long as Alleva sticks around. If Alleva is let go early in Ed's tenure and Ed doesn't do well - all bets are off.
I support Ed and LSU, but despise the shite show hiring process that Alleva went through that ultimately resulted in Ed's hiring. I think Ed is a good dude, I am just not convinced he is the best that LSU could have done.
I support Ed and LSU, but despise the shite show hiring process that Alleva went through that ultimately resulted in Ed's hiring. I think Ed is a good dude, I am just not convinced he is the best that LSU could have done.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:19 pm to RedTigerRulz
I'm not sure how short his leash is but for the sake of the program he needs a fast start.. the media will be all over Lsu if O struggles after firing "the mad hatter". Perception is reality and if O doesn't fare well it will be a pressure cooker around Baton Rouge
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:26 pm to TheHat7
Let's dispense with the myth that Da Coach O is responsible for Aranda being on the staff. He was already here and Alleva made sure he stayed.
Both The Orgeron and Alleva knew that LSU fans would have burned the campus down if they let Aranda leave last year. This was not some stroke of genius by Da Coach O...
Both The Orgeron and Alleva knew that LSU fans would have burned the campus down if they let Aranda leave last year. This was not some stroke of genius by Da Coach O...
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:38 pm to nitwit
I love the people who say CEO success will be tied to how well he recruits and hires coaches. That pretty much sums up any head coach success.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:45 pm to RedTigerRulz
I'm sure he sleeps better at night knowing you now half arse support him.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:50 pm to RedTigerRulz
If you give Miles 11 years O is forever.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:52 pm to RedTigerRulz
Given his record, if he is not on a short leash, our admin is worse than i thought. Whether or not you believe so, this is anything but a rebuilt job. There are a few positions that are lacking depth, but the talent on this team should still compete for the SEC.
With all that said.....how long does the admin allow CEO to stay on if he:
A. Has a losing season this year? GONE
B. posts a couple of 7-5 type seasons? GONE after 2 years
C. Starts to slip with recruiting? Gone after 2 years
With all that said.....how long does the admin allow CEO to stay on if he:
A. Has a losing season this year? GONE
B. posts a couple of 7-5 type seasons? GONE after 2 years
C. Starts to slip with recruiting? Gone after 2 years
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:55 pm to RedTigerRulz
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A. Has a losing season this year?
won't be fired, but mutiny will occur.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:56 pm to SportTiger1
The downvoters are doing WORK!
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:58 pm to RedTigerRulz
It's a short leash. He'll be fine this year but no improvement from the past few seasons and hell be gone before 2020.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I hate to say this, but the terms of Da Coach O's contract are fundamentally inconsistent with a "short leash".
Little has been said about the HORRIBLE job Alleva did with this contract, which while hiring The Orgeron on cheap, has HUGE financial disincentives to terminating him before the term is up.
Little has been said about the HORRIBLE job Alleva did with this contract, which while hiring The Orgeron on cheap, has HUGE financial disincentives to terminating him before the term is up.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:09 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It's pretty pathetic too.
I agree. Miles was a pathetic offensive coach.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:24 pm to nitwit
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Kiffen would never consider Orgeron a peer, much less respect him as a head coach and it appears Kiffen allowed Da Coach O to get way down the road with the notion he might come to LSU at OC, with no intention to do so.
Brilliant analysis. Kind of funny that Dandy reported this piece of information this very morning.
https://www.dandydon.com/
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File this under the category of “For What It’s Worth.” In an interview with Sports Talk host Bo Mattingly, current Florida Atlantic Coach Lane Kiffin was asked if he was really considering working with Coach Ed Orgeron at LSU last December. His answer? “I was, because I really think they’re going to win a lot there, and do great things.”
Any other great insight you may have about Coach O and his ability to make hires and such would be greatly appreciated. I like HAVING to laugh out loud.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:29 pm to nitwit
quote:Horrible for O you mean. Great for LSU.
Little has been said about the HORRIBLE job Alleva did with this contract
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:40 pm to CptBengal
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I agree. Miles was a pathetic offensive coach.
I don't think you'll find anyone here that disagrees with this assessment, so if you're trolling for bites, you may be in for disappointment. Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:43 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I don't think you'll find anyone here that disagrees with this assessment, so if you're trolling for bites, you may be in for disappointment.
Rickydaddy is still waiting, lurking, dreaming of Less.
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