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re: CEO's Tenure at LSU
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:01 pm to CptBengal
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:01 pm to CptBengal
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My point was he had many coordinators.
A winning team will run through coordinators as they get head jobs of their own. Your original point is without merit.
Those teams are due to HC's that lead one side of the ball, so it doesnt matter who the OC/DC is. We dont have that.
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:03 pm to ssgtiger
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, just that lets give the guy a shot before anointing him a failure.
i am
but he has a lot to prove when he has nothing to show he's capable of that. it's possible, just unlikely
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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O has to show the same sort of overall philosophy and strategy (that leads to results, obviously) to establish consistency so he can build the program
I still get a bit nervous with the QB recruiting. We still appear to be going down the same type of path that was similar to the previous regime regarding this. We still chase guys who fit different offenses as opposed to a singular offense (or is versatile in different offenses). Then again, I believe it's been said that Canada is capable to adjusting his offense to any QB, but how many OCs out there are like that?
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:06 pm to SportTiger1
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Those teams are due to HC's that lead one side of the ball, so it doesnt matter who the OC/DC is. We dont have that.
We didn't have it under less either
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:07 pm to CptBengal
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We didn't have it under less either
i don't think anyone is defending Les in this thread
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:08 pm to nitwit
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3) The Orgeron had an apparent belief that he could hire Kiffen.
Yes, you pretty much used the opportunity making up utter and total bullshite to bash Coach O.
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I don't believe for a minute Kiffen's suggestion that he seriously entertained coming here
Wow ??? You don't believe he would consider coming to coach with a guy who he has coached with at 3 or 4 programs in the past. When one or more even involved moving between programs TOGETHER.
You don't believe what he says? How is anyone here supposed to believe anything you say. You make up shite to bash O and then when given proof you are wrong you still argue the BS you made up by saying the guy you made the shite up about must now be lying and you don't believe him?
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Should I assume you think Kiffen would have been a great hire for LSU and he would have considered Da Coach O as his superior?
Are we are trying to change the subject away from one of us making shite up to bash someone?
You might as well assume what I would think. If you were wrong about what my actual thoughts were you would just not believe me like you do with Kiffin when he himself said he WAS considering coming to LSU.
But, to answer your question, I am glad Kiffin is not at LSU. I wouldn't want that guy around a high school football program that I liked. I do think he is one of the luckiest people walking the face of the earth. He has been fired at 3 of the last four places he has been - Oakland, USC and Alabama. He probably would have been fired by TN but he left after only one year. After that track record - programs were still seeking him out to be their head coach - including some LSU fans who wanted him to be hired. But no, I would not even want him as an OC.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:10 pm to Tiger Ree
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. But no, I would not even want him as an OC.
Yeah, lets turn down an OC that could make Jalen Hurts a SEC caliber QB.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:23 pm to RedTigerRulz
If we have a losing season this year then he should immediately be fired. My god.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:27 pm to Tiger Ree
What EXACTLY was made up, Ree?
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:27 pm to c on z
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Yeah, lets turn down an OC that could make Jalen Hurts a SEC caliber QB.
If Jalen Hurts wasn't an SEC caliber QB coming out of high school I don't think the would be playing football for Alabama. It's not like he was a WR and wasn't even recruited a QB.
He had SEC offers from Mississippi St and TX A&M as well as the offer from Alabama.
I'm not saying Lane Kiffin isn't a good OC. I am saying regardless of him being a good OC, I personally wouldn't him around LSU in any capacity.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:28 pm to LSUSoulja08
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who gives a shite who Vandy would or would not have hired?
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:30 pm to CptBengal
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We didn't have it under less either
And we fired that guy. So let's not use him as our baseline.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:30 pm to geauxtigers33
quote:Tunes will change when LSU is stomping mudholes in the SEC. Hate dies hard, and it's gonna to take results to kill it.
I just don't understand why people won't give the man a chance
I wonder what the UT fan base thought when Charlie Strong was hired? Probably much more confident than Rant posters are (at this time). I'd bet anything O doesn't come close to Strong's results.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:33 pm to LSU Patrick
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Saban was the GOAT coach when LSU hired him.
Before coming to lsu Saban had been the DC of the Cleveland Browns and turned them into the #1 defense in the nfl.
He had taken a Michigan State program coming off of probation and had them finish in the top 10.
The fact that you would compare a career dline coach to Saban is mind blowing.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:34 pm to Tiger Ree
Ree, I assume the "bashing" which you claim I am engaged in with Da Coach O is my conclusion that he exercised terrible judgment in trying to get Kiffen as OC and that he could get him to come here.
You seem to agree with the former and as to the latter, the failure to hire Kiffen kind of speaks for itself, doesn't it....
You seem to agree with the former and as to the latter, the failure to hire Kiffen kind of speaks for itself, doesn't it....
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:37 pm to LSU Patrick
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No. LSU clearly thought it was elite when it hired Nick, but now it considers itself a loser because it hired Ed Orgeron. The world's problems are now solved. Congrats guys
Saban before lsu
Turned the Cleveland Cleveland Browns into the #1 defense in the nfl.
Had a coming off probation MSU program finish in the top 10.
Coach O before lsu
Won 3 sec games in 3 years.
Has the worst in conf win% in sec history for any coach that has coached for 3 years.
Has never had any success at a position above recruiting coordinator and position coach.
Coach O coukd have success at lsu but dont act like his career PRE LSU even remotely resembles Saban pre lsu.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:40 pm to Freauxzen
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I really don't get how people are ok with this. Makes no sense that we'd prefer our Head Coach to have little input on how we play the game.
It's because of a decade of miles meddling and being too hands on and its convinced a portion of lsu fans that a hands off Head coach is a good thing. It's Miles 'fault.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's not just this
go back to recruiting and our talent. yes O can recruit his arse off, but with the potential instability on either side (due to coordinators running the show and then likely leaving if they're successful), how do we develop an overall strategy to ensure our abundant talent fits with this likely revolving door of schematics over time?
Great point.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:46 pm to nitwit
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What EXACTLY was made up, Ree?
According to yesterday's Lane Kiffin quote to a radio host saying he was considering coming to LSU. Both of these comments made by you were made up and are total bullshite.
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"His efforts (and apparent belief that he could) hire Kiffin suggests to me that he is in over his head and is capable of terrible judgment on hiring matters"
His apparent belief that he could get Kiffin was not unfounded and at one time was very probable. It does not suggest Coach O is in over his head and capable of terrible judgment as you suggest.
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"Kiffen would never consider Orgeron a peer, much less respect him as a head coach and it appears Kiffen allowed Da Coach O to get way down the road with the notion he might come to LSU at OC, with no intention to do so"
This is all made up and again total bullshite. Kiffin said yesterday he was considering coming to LSU. Your post above says Kiffin had NO INTENTION of coming to LSU. That is incorrect and a bold face lie on your part. Not to mention the other made up bullshite about being a peer and respect as a head coach.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:52 pm to ORTIGER
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I love the people who say CEO success will be tied to how well he recruits and hires coaches. That pretty much sums up any head coach success.
Yeah. Bama's defenses really sucked once Smart left.
Most head coaches have a philosophy for at least one side of the ball.
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