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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:34 pm to chilge1
dude...you're never going to convince him that LSU isn't anything but a big pile of shite right now. it doesn't matter what anyone else says...Vegas or coaches.
he's right...everyone else is wrong. everyone sucks
he's right...everyone else is wrong. everyone sucks
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:37 pm to Lou Pai
quote:Jefferson on 1/9 was the right guy against Alabama. Jefferson was a better runner than Lee, LSU ran the ball better when Jefferson was the QB, and Jefferson had better regular season passing stats than Lee.
We know he's not immune trying to force some assclown offense with the wrong guy (Jefferson on 1/9 being the most obvious and egregious example).
After the first half of the BCSCG, Jefferson had completed over 85% of his passes.
In the third quarter of the BCSCG, Jefferson completed 4 of 6 passes bringing his completion percentage down to 76.92% and his QB Rating was down to 97.08. Do you take out a QB who has completed over 75% of his passes?
Or Miles could turn to Lee:
In the 2008 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 69.13 and a completion percentage of 38.24%.
In the 2009 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 56.96 and a completion percentage of 40.00%.
In the 2010 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 137.54 and a completion percentage of 57.14%.
In the 2011 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 14.52 and a completion percentage of 42.19%.
Comparing Lee's QB Rating against Alabama to Jefferson's QB Rating against Alabama in the BCSCG, Lee had a higher QB Rating against Alabama only ONE time in Lee's entire career.
Comparing Lee's completion percentage against Alabama to Jefferson's completion percentage against Alabama in the BCSCG, Lee NEVER had a higher completion percentage against Alabama in Lee's entire career.
So Miles can stick with a QB who is completing over 75% of his passes, or he can substitute Lee into the game.
Lee might have mixed things up. Lee might have sparked the team. However, the odds were not in Lee's favor. He was exactly the kind of QB that Alabama's defense feasted on: an immobile pocket passer. His history against Alabama confirms that statement, and his history against Alabama can be fairly described as abysmal.
On the other hand, Jefferson as QB slowed the Bama rush down. Moreover, Jefferson's ability to lead a second half comeback in 2011 was rock solid before the BCSCG. Jefferson had led comebacks in the last three HUGE games prior to the BCSCG: the GOTC, the Arkansas (#3 ranking) game, and the SECCG.
Many fans did not think at halftime of the GOTC that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. However, in OT, Jefferson executed a perfect short-side option to Ford which put LSU in position for victory.
LSU beat Alabama at their house in the GOTC.
Many fans did not think with four minutes left in the half and LSU trailing 14-7 against Arkansas that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. However, Jefferson passed for 208 yards, LSU's second highest passing total of the season, and Jefferson rushed for an additional 53 yards, all against the #3 team in the nation which positioned LSU for victory.
LSU blew the doors off of Arkansas, won the SEC West, and earned an invitation in the SECCG.
Many fans did not think at halftime with LSU trailing 10-7 to Georgia in the SECCG that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. However, Jefferson executed options and zone reads to near perfection, and he threw a TD pass to Hilliard as LSU's offense scored FOUR TDs against a Top Five defense in their own backyard.
LSU rushed for over 200 yards, and Jefferson being the QB was an integral part of that, and LSU blew out Georgia and earned the right to play in the BCSCG.
So, of course, many fans did not think at halftime of Jan 9 that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. Unfortunately, the stars were aligned against LSU that night. They never got the spark they needed against a totally amped up Alabama team that was desperate for redemption. However, Jefferson completed nearly 65% of his passes despite his porous offensive line. Had LSU been able to continue to switch it up and throw more in the second half of the BCSCG, it might have been a different story. However, the line could not hold Alabama back long enough to give Jefferson time to throw.
Jefferson played in FOUR huge games in 2011: the GOTC, the Arkansas (#3 ranking) game, the SECCG, and the BCSCG. At halftime, or four minutes before the half, LSU was losing in each of those games. Nevertheless, Miles showed faith in Jefferson, and Jefferson delivered in every game but one.
Thus, in my opinion, given the three HUGE games before the BCSCG, given Jefferson's 85% completion percentage after the first half of the BCSCG, and given Lee's abysmal history against Alabama, a reasonable mind could rationally choose to stick with Jefferson for the second half of the BCSCG because it had worked well in the three previous HUGE games.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:39 pm to Salviati
Lol are u gonna drop this everytime some clown brings up the jj debate if so kudos to u
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:40 pm to cas4t
quote:
I don't think it's anything to freak about but it is frustrating. Jennings was the worst QB in the conference last year.
Well maybe just maybe Harris is worse
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:40 pm to lsuguru
Why anyone thinks that any coach will say anything relevant about the team in terms of who will play, etc is naive. They never provide any information. Why even bother listening?
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:40 pm to Moustache
quote:
Is he a proven commodity yet?
quote:Does Jennings?
Plus, he doesn't fit Richt's offense.
quote:Richt can't offer every QB in Georgia, and he's not going to do that.
It's still a pretty damn good rule.
Just like Miles can't offer every player in Louisiana. When an in-state school makes an offer, it has to be ready to accept that kid. Otherwise, you burn bridges.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:41 pm to Salviati
wow. You are still delusional.....
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:42 pm to Moustache
quote:
I can agree with this. I"m a huge fan of Franks.
Then you should be able to agree that the only thing holding us back from seeing the results we saw in Miles's first three years is quarterback talent... which is being brought in by the truckload and developed by a seasoned professional. I mean, if George Whitfield is Obi Wan Kenobi, then Cameron is Qui-Gon Jinn.
Gary Crowton was the single-greatest mistake that Miles has made in his tenure.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:43 pm to lsuguru
quote:
Les will know just who the guy is when we trot out against mcneese."
quote:
Get ready for a healthy dose of Jennings!
I have trying to tell ya'll...........
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:44 pm to lsuguru
So, we have 11 pages on a quote that would resemble what about 99.9% of coaches would say at this point in the offseason.
I want BH to start, just because I think Jennings is terrible, but to deny just how bad Harris was against AU is obtuse.
There is plenty of validity to the argument that Jennings may in fact be better than Harris.
I want BH to start, just because I think Jennings is terrible, but to deny just how bad Harris was against AU is obtuse.
There is plenty of validity to the argument that Jennings may in fact be better than Harris.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:44 pm to Salviati
We are about to start the fourth season without either JJ or JL. Its time to move on.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:46 pm to 5Alive
quote:Yes.
Lol are u gonna drop this everytime some clown brings up the jj debate if so kudos to u
I won't bring up Jefferson or 1/9/12 unless someone brings it up first. I won't start the thread or make the first posts.
But people need to know the facts, and I will be more than happy to present the facts.
The issue is far from dead. The issue hangs over LSU like a shadow. People keep using the BCSCG like a bludgeon to disparage Miles for choosing Jefferson over Lee. They don't know or won't accept the facts. I'll present the facts.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:46 pm to Salviati
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Just like Miles can't offer every player in Louisiana.
When it comes to QBs, La has been too much of a wasteland between JJ and Dak and between Dak and Harris for Miles to even look in that direction.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:49 pm to chilge1
quote:
Gary Crowton was the single-greatest mistake that Miles has made in his tenure.
But yet he was the OC for a GREAT offense and a NC team......... Yea...A shitty hire......
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:50 pm to Howyouluhdat
quote:Jennings can get better. Indeed, it's quite likely that he will get better.
Jennings was the worst QB in the conference last year.
SEC Regular Season Games
quote:Harris can get better. Indeed, it's quite likely that he will get better.
Well maybe just maybe Harris is worse
SEC Regular Season Games
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:53 pm to camplsu
quote:I don't bring up Jefferson or Lee. I only respond to those posts.
We are about to start the fourth season without either JJ or JL. Its time to move on.
The problem is that the issue is not dead. People keep bringing it up. When they do, I will provide the facts.
It's simple. If people don't bring up the issue with inaccuracies, I won't have to correct those inaccuracies.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:53 pm to Salviati
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Salviati
we're all chart and text-wall fatigued at this point, please stop....
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:54 pm to Salviati
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it's quite likely that he will get better.
Based on what?????? Come on MR.FACTS,,,,,, Break it down for me.............
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