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re: Beyond merely stupid- stupid to the 10th power.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Clemson knew what we were running. Hell, I think my wife knew.
Not on second and two, they didn't. We caught them totally flat footed.
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:50 pm to biglego
When opposing teams sellout totally to defend the run and dare us to beat them passing like Auburn, Florida, Texas A&M, Alabama, USC, Arky, and Clemson did last night and are for the most part successful, we have a freaking serious passing scheme problem. The coaches say the talent is there and I believe them, therefore the scheme is just flat out unsound. Last night, for the most part, it was the inability of the line to give Mett even two seconds for any of our downfield routes. Though Mett often had time when he used play action and still had little success throwing downfield. This scheme has made us the laughing stock of college football. It is really embarrassing to the players, the fans and the university. A new OC has to be found...I am sure Les will fix this now.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:50 pm to Big EZ Tiger
A passing play is a good call when the WR is wide open for the first down and it's an easy throw that the average high school QB makes 9/10 times. The fact Mett failed so miserably to make the easy pass doesn't mean the coach screwed up. It means Mett screwed up.
How about if Hill ran for the first down then fumbled at the end of the run? Would u blame the play call then? Bc that's about the equivalent.
How about if Hill ran for the first down then fumbled at the end of the run? Would u blame the play call then? Bc that's about the equivalent.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:52 pm to Penrod
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The width has nothing to do with it. It's about gaps. The space between the guy on the end and the sideline is just another gap. They loaded up for the run, which means they had guys in every gap, including the one at the end. You can't run against that unless you have a huge advantage in athletes. On the other hand, it means they're short handed in the passing game and their guys would have to do superhuman things to prevent the kind of play we ran. They were unable to stop it, but were saved by our lack of execution.
Gap counting is meaningless when you're talking about gaining 2 yards on 2 plays. That's just a question of whether your o-line can avoid collapsing long enough for your running back to fall forward for a yard at a time.
You keep talking about it like they were trying to break off a huge play, but the needed 2 yards in 2 plays. That's it. You don't need to count men or work for a numerical advantage you just give your RB a head of steam, put him behind your giant fullback, and let him fall into the hole for a yard or two.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:52 pm to Penrod
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The width has nothing to do with it. It's about gaps. The space between the guy on the end and the sideline is just another gap.
Dude, you don't have to run between the tackles.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:53 pm to Barry Badrinath
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Just say the players.
Les Miles fan club always blames players.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:55 pm to nf
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The idea that the run was so ineffective that they couldn't gain 2 yards on 2 downs is completely farcical.
The situation, and what the other team is doing, dictate what you should do. On short yardage situations Clemson stacked and beat us. The coaches had every reason to believe they were going to do it again, and they were right! Clemson stacked, we caught them off guard, and players failed to execute a great play call. If they had called a run, opened a ten yard hole, and Mett fumbled the handoff, would that have been a stupid call?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Still would have been a bad call. Too much risk.
Run the clock or force them to use timeouts. Miles says they couldn't run, and he is full of shite.
i guess you forgot the bama game when they ran, bama used time outs, we missed the f.g. and bama still scores a t.d. w/o timeouts. Were you beating your chest about what a brilliant call it was to run against bama? i think not.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:57 pm to dos crystal
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i guess you forgot the bama game when they ran, bama used time outs, we missed the f.g. and bama still scores a t.d. w/o timeouts. Were you beating your chest about what a brilliant call it was to run against bama? i think not.
What the frick are you talking about? This had nothing to do with Bama.
The passing game was working vs Bama though, it wasn't last night.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:58 pm to jtran1988
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if they outnumber for the run.. wouldn't it make sense to spread the field 4 wide and do a zone run play?
If you had a QB who could run a little that's a good idea. With an immobile QB it takes a lot of the potency away.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:59 pm to Penrod
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If they had called a run, opened a ten yard hole, and Mett fumbled the handoff, would that have been a stupid call?
No, it would have been a smart decision. The decision to throw on second and two like we did was idiotic.
The passing game was out of sync all second half.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:00 pm to Penrod
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That was the situation against Bama. I hate to say it, man, but pussies do that. Guys with nuts go for the jugular, and sometimes fail.
You are pretty DENSE, but at least you have big nuts. I like pussies...I wish I had one, I'd stay at home and play with it all day.
Jeremy Hill ran wild against Clemson (who even with 73 guys at the line is weak on run D most of the time). He averaged 10 yards per carry. We needed 10 yards on three carries. We also needed to make them use their timeouts if we didn't get a 1st for the best chance to win.
Mett finished with 79 total yards with his sacks included. Even with the sacks not included, Hill had more yards than Mett on only a few touches.
One guy seems like he might be the guy that would get a 1st down based on his play yesterday.
One guy seems like he probably wouldn't be the guy to get you the 1st down based on his play yesterday.
Guys with big nuts are not always smart.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:01 pm to Penrod
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It's risky either way. If we ran three times and failed we would have lost the same way. To win we had to pick up at least one first down. The smart move is to do whatever gives us the best chance to get a first. Three passes was exactly the right answer. Remember, against Bama we followed your advice, failed, and watched them drive the field and win.
After the first down successful play call, the risk of running for it decreases tremendously. The smarter decision would have been to run on second down, and then if that was not successful, decide what was the best option for 3rd. Hell, call a time out after Clemson stops the clock to make sure you've got the right play call or see how Clemson lines up to defend.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:01 pm to Penrod
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Not on second and two, they didn't. We caught them totally flat footed.
We caught Mett flat footed too.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Les Miles fan club always blames players.
I don't always blame anyone. I thought Les let down the players against Bama by taking his foot off the gas, and I think the players let down Les last night.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Oh look it's rick daddy to miles rescue to show us that our offense is best in LSU history.
Tell us Rickey how if the play was properly executed we would have had a 50 yard gain.
Tell us Rickey how if the play was properly executed we would have had a 50 yard gain.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:03 pm to Penrod
Agree totally.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:05 pm to Penrod
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. I thought Les let down the players against Bama by taking his foot off the gas, and I think the players let down Les last night.
Huge difference between those two games. The passing game was on fire vs Bama, it was shite last night.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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"We had to throw the football," Miles said.
"We were not running the football. They were in a position where they outnumbered us in the run."
Miles is a STUPID frick!
That comment is the straw for me.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:05 pm to biglego
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How about if Hill ran for the first down then fumbled at the end of the run? Would u blame the play call then? Bc that's about the equivalent.
No, I wouldn't blame the play call. I'd say, well, I didn't see that coming based on how he has killed this defense. I would say the coach would have done what 99% of the people out there would have done - used the guy who put the most yardage and points up against the defense he was playing.
I like Mett, but he is inconsistent. It wasn't a shock that he didn't complete the play. I don't care if the guy was open by 40 yards. The coaches should have factored that in when they decided to call it. He didn't have a good game.
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