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re: Beyond merely stupid- stupid to the 10th power.

Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:06 pm to
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You don't need to count men or work for a numerical advantage you just give your RB a head of steam, put him behind your giant fullback, and let him fall into the hole for a yard or two.


shite, thanks dude. That's how we do it from now on. I'm telling Sean Peyton. No more failing to get a critical third or fourth and one. We just give it to our big fullback and let him fall forward for a yard (or two). Oh shite almost forgot the part about gaining steam. Sean would have been pissed when it didn't work and he found out I left that part out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260069 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:06 pm to
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"We had to throw the football," Miles said.

"We were not running the football. They were in a position where they outnumbered us in the run."



Miles is a STUPID frick!
That comment is the straw for me.


Yep, that is pure stupidity. It shows he had no awareness of the situation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260069 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:08 pm to
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He didn't have a good game.


Mett and the Wr's were out of sync the whole second half. The passing game wasn't working at all.

Contrary to Les Miles opinion, the rushing game was doing just fine, it just wasn't utilized.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:09 pm to
Why would we want to give the ball to someone averaging 10 yards a carry with the game on the line. Our offensive coaches (and they are VERY offensive) had already sent Hill to whatever doghouse our RB get sent to whenever they seem to be performing at a Hugh level. And we used to blame Porter and/or Crowton for playing hide the hot running back. Who's the constant through all the other staff changes?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39131 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:11 pm to
Big EZ, I see where you're coming from, but if your QB can't throw a dink pass to a wide open man the jig is pretty much up. The toss dive isn't much easier to complete than that pass. I'll grant you this, though. If Mett has less than an 80% chance of completing that pass, we should run it. In fact, we should never pass.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:13 pm to
With 2:30 left in the game, Miles went with the Miles Hurry Up Offense, which is his most efficient use of time management. They were off the field with 1:30 left in the game so the defense could return to the field. One minute exactly of LSU being on the field with out a single time out being called. Now that's a hurry up offense.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 9:16 pm
Posted by ruger
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Member since Dec 2011
831 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:15 pm to
Remember when Charles Scott disappeared in the fourth quarter at Kentucky after gaining 100+ yds only to bring the dude in on the last series?? Ran straight up the middle and missed the first down. Not saying Hill wouldn't have gotten it but I think the more important question is where the frick do these running backs go after the third?!?? THAT is what pisses me off about Elmer Fudd.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 9:16 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260069 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:15 pm to
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If Mett has less than an 80% chance of completing that pass, we should run it. In fact, we should never pass.


Dude, LSU started off 7 for 7 passing and went downhill from there. The passing game was totally out of sync, and Mett and the WR's weren't even on the same page.

Do you agree or do you disagree that you play to your strengths? Against Bama, that would be passing the football. Against Clemson, with the clock needing to wind down, and/or timeouts needing to be used....and the passing game out of sync, the rushig game picking up 7 yards per clip...it would be the running game.

On second down, it was just idiotic to throw the football. It was even more idiotic to say you "had" to throw it, and that it was impossible to run.
Posted by nf
Portland, OR
Member since Oct 2012
520 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:17 pm to
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shite, thanks dude. That's how we do it from now on. I'm telling Sean Peyton. No more failing to get a critical third or fourth and one. We just give it to our big fullback and let him fall forward for a yard (or two). Oh shite almost forgot the part about gaining steam. Sean would have been pissed when it didn't work and he found out I left that part out.


Gosh, what play do you think NFL teams run most often on 3rd and 1 when they are trying to run out the clock? I see a whole lot of runs in that situation so I guess they're in on the secret already.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:18 pm to
Roger, you can't vary from the Miles Hurry Up Offensive Plan with 2:30 left in the game. It's not efficient use of time to run and would cause the other team to burn timeouts.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24267 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:21 pm to
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Contrary to Les Miles opinion, the rushing game was doing just fine, it just wasn't utilized.


Yeah, I don't mean to go on and on (though I can't seem to stop myself). I handled the loss fine until I heard his quotes.

They stopped us twice in short yardage situations and he was acting like it was inconceivable that we could rush the ball against them. I mean, we got sacked on 3rd and short too in the game and had numerous sacks on 3rd down. Then they batted the ball down on our final offensive play.

I've never heard a coach sound so confident that his 120+ yard rusher couldn't get squat even if he tried...like it was an absolute FACT.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23666 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:24 pm to
I thought the pass on second down was a good call. The receiver was wide open in front of Mett, about 12 feet away. Simple pass on the run. Mett just blew the throw. However, the pass on 3d down was not smart. The throw was a snap throw right in front of the defensive line. I know Jamarcus used to make that throw look easy, Mett has a recurring problem getting throws throw a crowd.

I saw a great run in the Stanford game today. In a short yardage situation they brought the receiver in motion to set up a tight, power running set, with a single back, then pitched to the back running for the sidelines. That play would work for us.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 9:26 pm
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:25 pm to
Well ad to the fact that with a lead in a game and 2:30 left in it and the other team has all three time outs, you want to burn clock and force them to use them. Instead, Miles rushed the play after the 1st completion and had an incomplete pass on 2nd down, which stopped the clock. This is a time management issue that Miles sucks donkey taints at doing. Hell, his statement that Roger provided is the equivalent of Miles would see an armed robber at his house as he is driving into his drivewauy.; He decides to get out, unlock and open his door for the armed robber because he doesn't want him to break any of the windows to his house trying to get in to rob him.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 9:31 pm
Posted by YogaPants
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4704 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:28 pm to
I support Miles, but his management of this situation is unreal
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260069 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:28 pm to
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I saw a great run in the Stanford game today in a short yardage situation they brought the receiver in motion to set up a tight, power running set, with a single back, then pitched to the Bach running for the sidelines. That play would work for us.


A few years ago Les Miles went outside the box and allowed his OC to let Deangelo Peterson to run a reverse around the left side for big yardage. It was 4th and 1 I believe and it was a toss sweep that went for 20 something yards.

I miss that Les Miles. He has disappeared.
Posted by LSUGrad1978
Littleton, Colorado USA
Member since Nov 2012
134 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:30 pm to
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Miles Hurry Up Offensive Plan


Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:53 pm to
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You are an idiot. It was a bad call and worse execution.


I've forgotten more football than you will ever know. It's amazing how a FANBASE can change their stance.
When we played Bama, miles was an idiot for not throwing the ball to get a first down.
Now against Clemson , he is an idiot for not running the ball.
Get a grip on reality boy. He called a pass play because Clemson had 10 men in the box. I hate our football ignorant fans and you are one of them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260069 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:56 pm to
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I've forgotten more football than you will ever know


Posted by nf
Portland, OR
Member since Oct 2012
520 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:00 pm to
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I've forgotten more football than you will ever know.


Yea, from your posting it's evident that you've forgotten a whole shitload of stuff about football. Like clock management. You and Les may suffer from a related form of football specific amnesia. Seek help.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:01 pm to
I'm sorry, it's true. People thinking that play call was stupid, clearly don't know football. They wanted Miles to run the ball into a 10 man front.
Also, I've never seen you make an intelligent football post.
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