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re: B. Harris Scrimmage Peformance
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:17 pm to The Egg
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:17 pm to The Egg
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pretty sure neither qb has 'it,' and the scary part is that LSU will trot out a QB that doesn't have 'it' for a second straight season.
The are only 2 ways of solving that problem.
1. Get a high level transfer QB who is capable of playing right away and eligible to play right away.
2. Develop the two you have.
The first was always a long shot and it's pretty clear that the coaching staff has decided not to go that route.
The key word in the 2nd option is develop. It doesn't happen overnight. The biggest idiots here are the ones who thought Brandon Harris was immediately going to be the solution. It's a process that takes time and takes a ton of work. We are literally a couple of weeks into Spring ball. It's basically impossible for things to have changed significantly by now.
I think what we saw out of Harris last year was that despite his arm talent, he didn't have enough of a foundation to actually develop into a dependable QB. The hope is that he gets the foundation set...because once that happens, his improvement curve should be much steeper than Jennings'.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 2:19 pm
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:18 pm to The Pirate King
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At some point you start to blame the talent evaluators and the person who coaches them up....
Another season, same ole QB story. Oh, but wait, Mett negates all the other years of us sucking at QB!!!!!
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:19 pm to dgnx6
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We recruited cardale Jones, jt Barret, Jeremy Johnson, etc... Again players can choose to play for whoever they want.
People forget that these kids have minds of their own. LSU can recruit the best prospects at QB but ultimately they go where they want to.
We nearly had Kiel reeled in. He just had a soft spot for his mom. He clearly would've been excellent.
Most schools don't have many opportunities at reeling in elite QBs. There's no philosophy problem. There's a QB shortage problem.
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Another season, same ole QB story. Oh, but wait, Mett negates all the other years of us sucking at QB!!!!!
He was a QB here. Why do people intent on dogging the coaching staff want to ignore Mett's tenure? Oh wait, I know, because it undermines your agenda.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:21 pm to moneyg
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The key work in the 2nd option is develop. It doesn't happen overnight. The biggest idiots here are the ones who thought Brandon Harris was immediately going to be the solution. It's a process that takes time and takes a ton of work. We are literally a couple of weeks into Spring ball. It's basically impossible for things to have changed significantly by now.
Anthony Jennings was the 5th best sophomore QB or younger in the P5 last year among QBs who took the majority of snaps for their team.
People trying to compare him to players who have more time in their offense need to gain some perspective.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:21 pm to AGENT225
Yes, he's being deceptive. Threw it right to the safety.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:22 pm to Goldrush25
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LSU can recruit the best prospects at QB but ultimately they go where they want to.
It's not that your statement is incorrect in and of itself, but do you not think that we have a systemic problem with this? Or do you just believe that we're continuously unlucky when it comes to QB development?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:24 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It's not that your statement is incorrect in and of itself, but do you not think that we have a systemic problem with this? Or do you just believe that we're continuously unlucky when it comes to QB development?
I think highly rated QBs would rather transfer to another program for PT than get the proper development and wait for their time on the field.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:24 pm to Goldrush25
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He was a QB here. Why do people intent on dogging the coaching staff want to ignore Mett's tenure? Oh wait, I know, because it undermines your agenda.
Hey genius, who was ignoring him? I talked about him. As a matter of fact, you focusing on his tenure doesn't get rid of the problem, it highlights it.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:25 pm to chilge1
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I think highly rated QBs would rather transfer to another program for PT than get the proper development and wait for their time on the field.
Could be.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:25 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It's not that your statement is incorrect in and of itself, but do you not think that we have a systemic problem with this? Or do you just believe that we're continuously unlucky when it comes to QB development?
I don't know what that means, systemic problem.
We nearly had Kiel in the boat. He chose his mother over LSU. What could've been done there?
Besides that, we had a good one in Mett. Our recent history with QBs is above average when you consider Mett and Kiel. Kiel was lost due to circumstances beyond the coaching staff's control. I would definitely call Kiel bad luck.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:26 pm to Mo Jeaux
Happened with Rivers, Rettig, and Randall, just to name a few.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:28 pm to The Pirate King
Ultimately,
It's up to the coaches to recruit the talent, develop the talent and stack the talent up; four or five deep.
Good coaches do this and they face less "rebuilding" years.
At what point does miles stop being "unlucky" with his recruiting and developing?
It's up to the coaches to recruit the talent, develop the talent and stack the talent up; four or five deep.
Good coaches do this and they face less "rebuilding" years.
At what point does miles stop being "unlucky" with his recruiting and developing?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:31 pm to The Egg
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pretty sure neither qb has 'it,' and the scary part is that LSU will trot out a QB that doesn't have 'it' for a second straight season.
Starting to think LSU would be better off accepting 4th and 5th year transfers and JC guys than recruiting HS QB's and hoping they develop.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:37 pm to chilge1
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Happened with Rivers, Rettig, and Randall, just to name a few.
Rivers was not, and is not, a good QB. Jury is still out on Rettig. And Randall is not a college QB.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:38 pm to Analyst11
What about Jennings performance tell us about both please?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Letting Mason Rudolph go to Oklahoma State is looking more frustrating...
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Its frustrating to watch other schools routinely trot out fresh QBS each year who excel in their systems. Why is this such a mystery for LSU?
It boggles the mind that we could be this "unlucky" year in and year out. With Mett's one good year being the outlier, we've basically sucked at the position for a while.
It boggles the mind that we could be this "unlucky" year in and year out. With Mett's one good year being the outlier, we've basically sucked at the position for a while.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:42 pm to Analyst11
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Harris really struggled out there
pretty much exactly what I heard as well. Frustrating.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:42 pm to Wayne Campbell
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Rivers was not, and is not, a good QB. Jury is still out on Rettig. And Randall is not a college QB.
Eventually you have to start looking for an explanation somewhere else. Maybe as Roger mentioned, LSU would be better off devoting resources to finding partially-developed QBs in JC or cast offs from other big programs instead of trying to recruit and develop our own.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:55 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Its frustrating to watch other schools routinely trot out fresh QBS each year who excel in their systems. Why is this such a mystery for LSU? It boggles the mind that we could be this "unlucky" year in and year out. With Mett's one good year being the outlier, we've basically sucked at the position for a while.
Every school has to deal with the same QB shortage problem.
Easiest way to combat that is simplifying the offense. That's what the spread is, simplified offense. But you can't run that offense, then say you're preparing your players for the pros, because you aren't.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 2:56 pm
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