re: B. Harris Scrimmage Peformance

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Letting Mason Rudolph go to Oklahoma State is looking more frustrating...

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They didn't let him go, he wanted to go. They wanted him before Harris but he seemed less interested as time went by. I knew people would get this way about Harris.

I said before he got here, that he'd need a redshirt year and at least one backup year before he started. Extremely raw and first took up football in high school. I'd at least like to see how he performs in the spring game before I say if he is at least serviceable this year. Last year he was not good despite the TDs people raved about.

Let me first say that Jennings was very bad in the spring game last year as well, but Harris just didn't even look like a QB. First read wasn't open, he took off or threw the ball away. That was against a vanilla defense as well. That is not how you become a starting QB or play the QB position.

I haven't seen Harris enough to say if his accuracy is just bad even though we watched the horror that was the Auburn game. What I am saying, is that he needs to learn the nuances of the position. Just being intelligent doesn't mean you know what you are doing on the field.

But but but Brandon harris was the 1 QB coming out of high school...

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Mauck threw 5 interceptions in the '03 spring game. Luckily Saban ignored the fanbase.

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LOL at you comparing Mauck and AJ... Mauck in 2002>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AJ in 2014.



BTW Mauck recruited by Saban as was JR and Matt Flynn....

I honestly do not believe you. I truly believe you're trolling.

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Sunshine pumpers are relieved as hell when we continuously fail to develop QBs. Otherwise their entire narrative would fail and give them no reason to live.

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I can do stupid stuff like that too. It's fun, but idiotic.

Brad Kaaya, a true freshman 2014, had a better yr than Mett with more total yds and TDs.

Kenny Hill So, and Kyle Allen Fr split time for A&M and both had far more TDs than AJ this yr and had 62 and 67% completion.

The first CFP 4-team playoff won by OSU's Cardale Jones who had only started the last 3 playoff games, plus ALA Blake Sims, first year starter, was a semi-finalist.

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Five of the final seven BCS championships were won by first-year starters: Florida State's Jameis Winston, Alabama's AJ McCarron, Auburn's Cam Newton, Alabama's Greg McElroy and LSU's Matt Flynn. First-year starters won just two of the first nine BCS titles (Ohio State's Craig Krenzel and Tennessee's Tee Martin). Add in Notre Dame's Everett Golson, Oregon's Darron Thomas, Ohio State's Todd Boeckman and Auburn's Marshall, and nine of the past 14 quarterbacks to play for the national title were first-year starters. By comparison, only five of the 18 quarterbacks who played for a national championship from 1998 to 2006 were in their first year as a starter. Another way to think of it: Over the past 50 years, 60 percent of the Associated Press champions were led by a returning quarterback, yet 71 percent of the champions since 2007 have had a first-year starter under center.

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How did "you" decide that AJ is more cerebral than Harris? You have nothing quantitative to support that or many of your posts. The fact is that AJ was last in the SEC and ranked 122 EVEN with Harris's completions included. Harris had a 74% completion rate, 243 rating, and 96 QBR, the highest in the nation after ULM, SHSU, MSST, and NMST. He had 30 shotgun 3+WR sets vs NMST and the highest ppm rating (2xMariotta's) in the nation. Harris had scored 91 pts in under 3 qtrs and in 13 of 19 possessions on the year compared to AJ's 13 of 51 on the year after 5 games.

Then we go to AUB and Harris gets stuck under center, starting with 17 of 19 obvious running plays, into a stacked box, that went nowhere against an explosive AUB offense that, like MSST was soft vs the pass. ESPN:

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Auburn was going to try to stack the line like MSST and force LSU to throw.

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Down 24-7 at the half with a conservative ball control was not Chavis' fault, we just could not keep up with an explosive offense being so unbalanced and predictable.

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Attended the scrimmage on Saturday and Harris really struggled out there. He missed wide open receivers, looked very timid in the pocket, and exhibited very poor body language. The pick that he threw in the red zone was horrible. People can blame Miles all they want, but Harris has been his own worst enemy.

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Yeah, the scrimmage in your back yard.

Trey Quinn is in the top 2 for scrimmage TDs behind Chark at number 1 with 5 TDs reported. So I would not say Quinn has the "drops".

This is junior Jennings 3rd spring and Miles referred to them in the presser as both being in yr 2!. He said it was the offense's best day but did not give the nod to either for the 3rd scrimmage which was a 50% red zone and third and long affair. He did definitively say both were improving and giving the extra expected of 2nd year QBs.

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We expect them to not only execute the offense, their play, but also give us experience at the play caller, understand where we want to go, what we are supposed to do, and you know just a little heightened expectation (Are you seeing that?) Yeah, oh yeah.

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Dead Heat: Neither has separated himself into that Quality QB he is looking to find. As reported by Tiger Rag's press transcription Miles is reportedly looking for a 70% passer (where is the link to the 70% Miles comment? Did Miles really say this?)

Harris was upbeat as usual and reminded everyone of the Spring Game. Last year he ran away with it, 4 TDs: 3 TDs passing, 1 rushing, top rusher. AJ, two pick six INTs and one passing TD.

Kiffin and Saban installed a totally new offense for Sims to fit his dual-threat athletic ability. Plus prior to 2014, in 3 years Sims had only attempted 39 passes, 23 comp, 280 yds, (less than Harris and half the yds) had 67 rushes for 354 yds as a running back, had one reception as a WR, and had spent plenty of time as a defensive back.

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SDS: Blake Sims was a senior this year, but he’d never taken significant snaps at quarterback behind three-year starter AJ McCarron and had spent plenty of time in the program at running back and defensive back. That he came in and played lights out for the majority of the season is a huge accomplishment.

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All these guys have a higher QBR, more yards, and threw more TD's than Jennings, and are all sophomore or younger. 

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Every one of those QBs is a redshirt sophomore with 3 years in their program.

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Attended the scrimmage on Saturday and Harris really struggled out there. He missed wide open receivers, looked very timid in the pocket, and exhibited very poor body language. The pick that he threw in the red zone was horrible. People can blame Miles all they want, but Harris has been his own worst enemy.

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Yeah, no chance, too circumspect and overtly biased and unbalanced with no details that correlate with facts.

Jennings fumbled a shotgun snap and that Sione picked up and ran back for a TD, only turnover reported.

Immediately after the scrimmage Miles said it was the "offense's best day", that both of the "2nd year" QBs had developed and picked up the "nuances of the game", making adjustments at the line and calling out blitz packages to the RBs (same thing LF7 said), that it was a competition without separation, and awarded no QB of the Day honors. Harris' upbeat twitter post after the scrimmage was to remind everyone of the next and last scrimmage, the Spring Game. He ran away with it last year, 4 months out of HS: 4 TDs: 3 TDs passing, 1 rushing, top rusher. AJ, two pick six INTs and one passing TD.

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This thread is allowed to continue and the OPs post history is blocked from view.

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...first thing I noticed as soon as it was posted. This generated 10 pages of mostly off-topic thread hijacking by the usual suspects, made-up QB posts bashing Harris and trying to raise the bar for AJ, the junior, who has improved his running, but is yet to show improved arm talent, ranked last in the SEC and bottom of FBS.

ESPN says Harris is the best LA QB since RP, Named the Louisiana 2013 Class 5A All-State quarterback: Completed 178-of-329 passes for 3,172 yards with 34 touchdowns and 14 interceptions and rushed for 1,048 yards and 15 touchdowns as a senior = LSU 2013 O stats for Mett and Hill. Led Parkway to a 14-1 record and an appearance in the 2013 Class 5A state championship game. He was a 5-star junior, #37 overall, and #1 QB prior to committing early to LSU, which ended his media ratings readership value, and that was prior to his record setting senior year. Huge hands, wrist speed that has been talked about for years, ranked by Whitfield as having the strongest NFL arm he has seen in years. Yes he also threw a 92 mph fastball in HS, 60 mph football. He played football all his life, and was throwing so hard in 9th grade he was injuring the receiver's hands. Being as good or better than Winston, he was the best in Whitfield's elite Shark class which included Petty and Golson. Miles/Cam committed to developing AJ or BH as an elite passer, and have 12 of the best WRs, and a reported goal of 70% completion (Link: does anyone have the link to him saying 70%?), pace, and a balanced run/pass attack with DTQBs, a balanced spread attack with 3+WRs, putting players in space, pace, checkdowns to RBs, and to TEs who can and have caught multiple passes.

The poster did not attend the scrimmage. This is made up player bashing. No pick was reported by anyone, yet "OP analyist" manufactures a terrible pick thrown to an unidentified player, talks shite about Harris that is a complete contradiction of his faith/family/football personal character, personality, interviews, optimism, confidence, strength, and composure on and off the field. He stood up for Jennings after he was booed. The only pick we have "seen" is the video of AJ throwing into double coverage, a less than 35 yd floater to Dural that died 10 yds short, and that was attributed in the press to Harris. Harris, prior to this last scrimmage before the Spring Game had no Ints or turnovers.

The D has been practicing at pace without substitution for HUNH teams we will face most of the year, so by default the O is running faster. This is exactly what Kiffin did to both convert to HUNH offense to tire defenses, "dropped a brick on the accelerator", and forced the D to practice without substitution, a change Chavis and Miles were implementing. After 5 games Saban said ALA had faced only HUNH teams and his defense was prepared and conditioned physically and mentally to make quick adjustments without substitution. Miles has noted pace has helped the O.