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re: All this playoff vs. bowl crap needs to be done with....

Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:45 am to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:45 am to
This whole argument =

Playoff or BCS, I will love college football. BCS has been good to LSU and it doesnt bother me a bit. I'm sure I'd love a playoff too.
Posted by NonSense
Austin
Member since Oct 2006
901 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:45 am to
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How many D2 games do you watch including playoffs? If you watch any its because you got some kinda tie to the school like home town or alumni. The play off will not be competitive in any way.


I watch and I have no tie to any of those schools. I just like watching football.

It'd be nice if cfb fans had enough sense to watch those playoffs and boycott all the bowls except the one their team is playing in. That would actually make a difference.

Plus it's just hilarious watching their titles decided on the field in the same time window that people like yourself are making excuses about how D1 can't do a playoff.

Rather than saying I'm watching the FCS playoffs, I like to say I'm watching the 800 lb. Gorilla.
Posted by rowanspadre
Balad, Iraq
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:46 am to
I don't really like any other conference than the SEC but I will say this in response to Texas having a weaker schedule that TCU. Texas may not have a stronger schedule on paper but they play a Big 12 schedule just like LSU plays an SEC schedule. Overall both conferences are far better than those in the Mountain West and the WAC. Go undefeated in in the SEC and the Big 12 no matter how many close games, thats respect earned.
Posted by STBTigerr
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:47 am to
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This doesn't matter to the bowls themselves -- the bowls already sold their tickets; it's the second market that suffers.


I'm aware, but the poster I was replying to only said "there's more money in bowls than playoffs." To me, that means money from everything to do with the game, not just ticket sales.
This post was edited on 12/9/09 at 9:48 am
Posted by KLSU
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:48 am to
All we really need is a plus one format.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:50 am to
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Texas may not have a stronger schedule on paper but they play a Big 12 schedule just like LSU plays an SEC schedule. Overall both conferences are far better than those in the Mountain West and the WAC. Go undefeated in in the SEC and the Big 12 no matter how many close games, thats respect earned.

I'm saying Tcu is the exception to the whole scheduling rule this year. They played 3 ranked teams and that is a decent schedule for a midmajor.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:52 am to
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Div IA (FBS) is the only division at ANY level that doesn't have a playoff system. I guess every other level is wrong.


And it is the only division at any level of every single sport, college or pro, that doesn't have a playoff. And that's fricked up. LSU could probably make some noise in a playoff this year, and some of you hacks are happy about a consolation prize? Penn State in the Capital One bowl? And the winner doesn't get shite except for bragging rights that they beat another team for no reason or title or anything whatsoever?

Yay!!!
Posted by duboisd
Palestine, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:52 am to
I'm not so sure the Big XII is better than the Mountain West this year. TCU, Utah, BYU are better than the top 3 Big XII teams this year.
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:53 am to
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This is college football...kids trying to make something of theirselves in either a professional sport or earn a degree. Its gone to far with all this complaining about fairness. I like the system the way it is. You can't compare this to the NFL, 30 teams compared to a 3 maybe 4 times that many.

Let these kids go out there and play in their bowl games and be proud to finish out their seasons on a good note. Think about them and how they want to finish up their college careers, not what you wanna see as you sit back and watch it on TV. I can see putting a playoff in college football will just add to more and more issues and once you make a change like that, you just can't undo it. Those bowl sponsors won't just jump back on board like nothing happened.


Sorry, Rowanspadre, but I don't follow your logic at all. There is absolutely no reason we cannot have a playoff in college football -- by your logic college baseball players and basketball players (who participate in many more games than football players, by the way), can't make something of themselves or finish on a good note. Right.

Also, Tennis, Track, Swimming, Diving, Softball and other sports have meets with some kind of championship scheme at season's end based on their actual performance, not some writer voting on, or computer determining, who the champion should be.

Little leagues have a playoff.

And finally, the world's sport - soccer -- has a playoff.

College football is the only anomoly.

Do you honestly believe the student athletes of TCU and Cincinatti are getting an equal opportunity in the bowl system?

This post was edited on 12/9/09 at 9:54 am
Posted by rowanspadre
Balad, Iraq
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:56 am to
Then go watch a 800 lb gorilla
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 10:04 am to
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Then go watch a 800 lb gorilla


Do what? Compete in a playoff? I don't understand.
Posted by rowanspadre
Balad, Iraq
Member since Sep 2008
204 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 10:05 am to
So you think playing back to back in baseball and basketball is the same as football. You and the rest of your playoff gangs don't see the big picture. These teams get anywhere between 2 weeks to a month to get ready for the bowl game. You think adding 3 extra games to a team wouldn't hurt them. Let me see you balance a college football and classes that long and stay injury free. Eventually it'll happen and I know this...but I can't wait to watch all of yall bitch about it when it doesn't work out the way you thought it would. Just like it took and Ole Miss loss for you Les Miles lovers to remove your lips from his arse and realize what he really is...buts thats for another rant.
Posted by lashinala
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 10:09 am to
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Do you honestly believe the student athletes of TCU and Cincinatti are getting an equal opportunity in the bowl system?

equal opportunity=same number of games?....then yes.
equal opportunity=quality opponent? No.
Posted by duboisd
Palestine, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
2504 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 10:27 am to
Rowanspadre, I don't understand your argument at all. I could see if nobody currently had a playoff, and we were proposing we become the first to see if it works. But a playoff is already in place at every level of the NCAA and NAIA. How do basketball players balance classes during March Madness? Are classes cancelled during the Regionals, Super-Regionals, and College World Series for baseball? Although your concern for our student-athletes is honorable, it is not a good argument for why we can't have a playoff.

As far as games played in a season, Navy is playing fourteen games this year. Is it unrealistic to think that a college athlete has more expectations than a student at the US Naval Academy? None of these reasons make sense to me.
Posted by rowanspadre
Balad, Iraq
Member since Sep 2008
204 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 10:32 am to
I don't like the playoff idea and I never will. In my mind I do not see it reasonable or capabable of working. But I guess we will all have to wait and see because we can debate all we want. If it happens I'll still watch like I do now. All we can hope for is that the government has NO play what so ever in this process.
Posted by GeauxGus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
5219 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 10:35 am to
...ridiculous argument...
Posted by GeauxGus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
5219 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 10:37 am to
..oh, and GTFO o' heah!....
Posted by floridachad
orlando
Member since Sep 2008
205 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 10:44 am to
what kind of post is this?...I disagree...football is a sport...there are winners and losers...there are no hurt feelings in football...wtf...when did we become such a bunch of pussies...play it out and decide on the field who is a loser and winner...this shite of giving everyone a trophy because we want everyone to feel like a winner is bs...we need a playoff system so everyone has a fair chance..these bowls are absolutely meaningless unless your playing for the title..i honestly couldn't give less of a crap if lsu wins new years day or not...cause it doesn't mean anything...im just going to have fun...
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:02 am to
Former Delaware quarterback Joe Flacco told Dan Patrick Monday that he loved the playoff system, would like to see it in FBS, and never missed a class because of playoff games.
This post was edited on 12/9/09 at 11:03 am
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8166 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 2:41 pm to
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So you think playing back to back in baseball and basketball is the same as football. You and the rest of your playoff gangs don't see the big picture. These teams get anywhere between 2 weeks to a month to get ready for the bowl game. You think adding 3 extra games to a team wouldn't hurt them. Let me see you balance a college football and classes that long and stay injury free.


Somehow smaller division schools manage it.

You could limit the number of games during the year to 11 and have the season finished by the weekend after Thanksgiving. The bowl season already goes from Dec 20 to Jan 7th -- so, have the first game on Dec 19th, second game on Dec 26th, take a week off and play the championship on Jan 10th. Not difficult at all. These guys are practicing during that time anyway.
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