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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:11 am to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:11 am to
He is definitely having an academic issue.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 8:12 am
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:16 am to
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But, you do understand that we have gone multiple seasons without any academic casualties, right?


Lub, you're missing my point here. I understand that we've had seasons without any academic mishaps, I'm simply stating that IF it's true we should be playing Mett. This is getting off track. I was implying that I don't really think that's the problem. That may or may not be true, but this post is about IF IT IS. I truly think that Lee's playing time or lack thereof is an indication of who CLM thinks is best for the job and that is have nothing to do w/ grades. My belief only. "Academic problems" while it may be true, is an easy rumor to start
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:18 am to
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But it is nice to see JL being treated with the same level of optimism that JJ was


This topic has nothing to do w/ the QB situation
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 8:19 am
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:20 am to
The question is if the "rumor" is accurate - why now? Were there any indications of academic problems during his previous years at the school? Or is it merely evidence now of a progressively developed don't-give-a-flip attitude.
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:21 am to
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Lub



What's your belief and why, on the rumor that is? And if you believe it can you answer why CLM would continue to play Lee? That's where I'm going w/ this. All of the other stuff is all subjective.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 8:22 am
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:22 am to
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The question is if the "rumor" is accurate - why now? Were there any indications of academic problems during his previous years at the school? Or is it merely evidence now of a progressively developed don't-give-a-flip attitude.


My reasoning for not being 100% sold.
Posted by beauthelab
Member since Feb 2008
4740 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:23 am to
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He hasn't "failed" anything yet. The semester is not over.


I was thinking this, also. Final exams are not until next week. He may be in danger of failing a class and thus be declared ineligible for post season play, so it may be that the coaches are planning ahead for that possibility....
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:23 am to
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It's hard to understand how one goes from leading the team to an 8-0 record and taking 75% or so of the snaps, to playing 1 or 2 possessions and kneeling it out


+1
7 years of Les Miles and you'd think we would have an idea by now.

anyway
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:23 am to
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This topic has nothing to do w/ the QB situation


That is your opinion. It (not u) looks very hypocritical to me. As a consistent supporter of both our QBs, I feel it relevant to point out.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 8:27 am
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:23 am to
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The buzz from legit sources (I know). Lee was ruled ineligible for the bowl game after failing a class and Les has been getting JJ ready for the BCSNG
but classes aren't over yet, are they?
Posted by LadyRPTiger
River Parishes
Member since Aug 2011
621 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:24 am to
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Will the wacko's that have been bashing Miles collectively punch themselves in the balls at that moment?
Some of us don't have those, but I agree if so!
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:25 am to
Here is what makes no sense to me.

He is supposed to have academic problems, I understand if he could not play at all...

but he can still play 2-3 min at the end of the game, but can not play during the game ???






Posted by LadyRPTiger
River Parishes
Member since Aug 2011
621 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:25 am to
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Final exams are not until next week.
If that is the case, there is a chance that he failed a class to the point that he can't even make an "A" on his final to pull it up????
Posted by beauthelab
Member since Feb 2008
4740 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:26 am to
Could be...
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:27 am to
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So nice job there pal



You left out the most important part - any hypothesis on your part - whether well reasoned out or not is merely an opinion.
Which is why I posted this.
quote:


I can certainly understand why you are confused - you are not a coach, neither are you a trainer nor are you the player to know why and how the playing decisions are being made.

We are 12-0 and still hold on to crap like this.


Les never gives out any information and anything that we know in the past many years is from trying to make a meal out of scraps (regardless of whether the scraps came from the right place or not).

Except when the player transfers or is given a chance to speak out , we will never know. I am not trying to say that you do or don't have a valid point - except that you are going only by your own analyses of rumors.
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:28 am to
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He is supposed to have academic problems, I understand if he could not play at all...

but he can still play 2-3 min at the end of the game, but can not play during the game ???


BINGO!

That's why I don't believe it. You would think Coach would throw Mett in there and prepare him if Lee wasn't going to be available later on.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 8:31 am
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:33 am to
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CalTiger


I'm not basing anything on rumors. I'm merely asking the question that if Lee isn't going to be there in the end, what is the reasoning for playing him at all. Read the posts man

Again, I do not believe the rumor. I think CLM likes JJ and I can't argue w/ that. Mett should play in Lee's spot if, and I'm saying IF, Lee is having issues off of the field.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 8:36 am
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:42 am to
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I'm not basing anything on rumors. I'm merely asking the question that if Lee isn't going to be there in the end, what is the reasoning for playing him at all. Read the posts man

Again, I do not believe the rumor. I think CLM likes JJ and I can't argue w/ that. Mett should play in Lee's spot if, and I'm saying IF, Lee is having issues off of the field.



Maybe I am to blame for not elucidating my points well.

What do we know
1. JJ was starter ->Lee Starter-> JJ transition -> JJ took over completely (lee gets hand off duty) ->Huge cat-fights on the rant and BR talk radio about Lee starting.

In all of this there was nothing I mean NOTHING from Les that indicated anything other than that he was going to be the deciding factor.

Someone mentioned Academics and everyone ran with that story.

You are trying to reason out why someone with Academic issues would be allowed to play a few minutes as opposed to more and all I am saying is that Les didn't say squat about it and that is what I am trying to point out. It could well be that Les just thought those few minutes were enough or that there was an issue and it was punishment.

We DONT know and in Les' tenure probably never will.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5536 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:43 am to
Has anyone in this thread ever been in a class at LSU?

I'll start with unlike some of the other posters who have double secret sources that know Lee's academic record, I don't. So I have absolutely no knowledge about Lee.

However as someone who has been a student and a TA very few professors want to fail kids even kids who are struggling.

Bad mid terms, late or just plain poor projects or papers, lack of regular attendance are all issues that students have irrespective of whether they are members of a sports team.

Most offer students who are willing to work an opportunity to bring up their grades before the semester ends, they are there to teach not punish students.

Further with the academic support that LSU provides its athletes each and every day in an organized way as well as the ability to request at any time individual help a student athlete would have to try very very very hard to do poorly enough to be ineligible.

It happens every year though if not at LSU at several programs you can read it on the ESPN crawl that such and such are ineligible for bowl games.
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:45 am to
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We DONT know and in Les' tenure probably never will.


I totally agree.
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