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A View From 1 1/2 Scouts *Long Read*

Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:43 pm
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:43 pm
I've worked for a former great football scout( now doing other work) for a number of years now and watch football games with him the past couple of years. I've learned a lot from him and we came up with a number of things watching tonight's game:

- Gonzales needs to become the full offensive coordinator. Crowton isn't the offensive genius people thought he was before coming here. With all the tools that LSU has, Gonzales could do amazing things with it.

- Chavis runs two defenses, and you would think he would learn. His redzone defense is phenomenal, but he fails to implement it into every down. The other 80 yards of the field, he uses a bend but don't break system, which allowed Claiborne to get burnt twice by double moves. When you play your cornerbacks 10+ yards off the LOS, teams are able to kill you short, and then catch you off-guard with the double moves for big games.

- The run defense was superb, minus a few missed tackles, which were the outcome of players trying to make big hits on big running backs. On most plays, you saw a number of guys right around them right at the line.

- The LSU offense (specifically Crowton) failed majorly to take advantage of the huge holes of the UNC defense. Even though you gameplan for a completely there UNC team, you have to assume (like many of you did) based on accurate assumptions that most of those players were going to be gone. It's the same thing when a team suffers an injury, what do you do? You attack their weakness...

-UNC still had two great d-linemen (Coples and Powell) and their two stud linebackers (Carter and Sturdivant). Their whole secondary was dismantled, yet it was still a 36:21 run to pass ratio. Jefferson made a lot of good passes, yet they went away from the short passes, which was what UNC drove down the field constantly on us.

On Player Notes:

- Hurst has go to go. I don't care if it's Faulk, Evan Washington, or Greg Shaw, someone has to replace him. My buddy even once said, "I feel like I'm watching the Lingerie League with the way Hurst is blocking." Coples dominated him all game long.

- "T-Bob needs to be taken out back and beaten like the redneck name he was given. Another gem from my buddy, but T-Bob cost us 10 points in the matter of two plays. He commits a hold on Ridley's touchdown, where his hold had no effect on what Ridley would have down. Then, he was out in no man's land when Jefferson had his intentional grounding penalty. Jefferson, running for his life, quickly saw an LSU jersey where you would expect your running back or safety valve (if there was one that play) to be, yet it was T-Bob nowhere close to the rest of the linemen.

- Mathieu and Loston need to start in the secondary, Brockers needs to start on the line, and Minter needs to start until Baker returns. These 4 players played light years ahead of the guys who started in front of them (Claiborne, Taylor, Levingston, and Barrow respectively)

- Ford or Ware HAS to get snaps. Someone needs to light a fire under Ridley's arse to make him realize that fumbling the ball twice isn't going to cut it at a major school

- As good as Peterson was, he needs to be taken off return duties. By doing both return duties, he hurt us on the defensive side having to rely on Claiborne and Mathieu most of the 2nd half.

OUT OF ALL THIS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY:

It's the first week and everyone will be rusty. There wasn't one ranked team that won huge over a TOUGH team. Bama and Oregon beat glorified high school teams. Bama's biggest weakness, trying to find replacements for their big names on defense, disappeared when playing such a horrible team in San Jose State.

Also, straight from him: Texas, Florida, USC, Oklahoma, and Penn State all would have lost to even this UNC team, if they played them tonight. This guy in no way is a LSU homer and trying to shine a better light on this game. While we did rag on a number of guys mentioned above, we still held on to beat a highly motivated UNC team. Be proud of that and still have fun, be happy LSU won, and get drunk tonight And with that, I am out and hope you guys enjoy this
Posted by kadillak
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

Texas, Florida, USC, Oklahoma, and Penn State all would have lost to even this UNC team, if they played them tonight.


This is true. I didn't watch Penn State play, but the others played like shite today against really poor competition. Stuff like this happens when you play tough competition in your season opener.

Ask Oregon what happened last year.
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:47 pm to
Good post. Most of that makes sense. However, with the barrage of 2nd quarter points, there is no way that LSU shouldn't have won that game comfortably. The 2nd half UNC was just trying not to get blown out, and LSU just fiddle farted around until UNC hit that 97 yard TD. Then all of the sudden, UNC tried to win again, and nearly did.
Posted by tiger910
Member since Dec 2008
596 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:47 pm to
I mostly agree with this.
Posted by LSUsmartass
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:49 pm to
Bay I think this is a different scenario, LSU was clearly the more dominant team when they were allowed to be dominant...take your foot off the gas and sure, any time would mount a comeback
Posted by therocketscientist
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Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

- Mathieu and Loston need to start in the secondary, Brockers needs to start on the line, and Minter needs to start until Baker returns


Money. My observation also.
Posted by LSUMONSTER
DALLAS,TX
Member since Oct 2005
2914 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

I am out and hope you guys enjoy this


Excellent observation

quote:

- Mathieu and Loston need to start in the secondary, Brockers needs to start on the line, and Minter needs to start until Baker returns. These 4 players played light years ahead of the guys who started in front of them (Claiborne, Taylor, Levingston, and Barrow respectively)


I'm never impressed my M. Claiborne in the 1st place.
Posted by keakdasneak
Member since Dec 2006
7137 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

- As good as Peterson was, he needs to be taken off return duties. By doing both return duties, he hurt us on the defensive side having to rely on Claiborne and Mathieu most of the 2nd half.


do this and we lose this game. it'll keep us in some games. absolutely disagree.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

Hurst has go to go. I don't care if it's Faulk, Evan Washington, or Greg Shaw, someone has to replace him. My buddy even once said, "I feel like I'm watching the Lingerie League with the way Hurst is blocking." Coples dominated him all game long.


Truer words NEVER spoken.

Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:50 pm to
good post
Posted by tigerwoods
Hillman
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:50 pm to
this is the only sensible post ive read on here tonight. I was just saying to my boy to look around and see how shitty power conference teams played against cream puffs today. it was ugly but we stomped that arse for a half and even with backups UNC is not Jax st MIA OH or RICE.
Posted by dandymatt
Dallas,TX
Member since May 2005
387 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

Gonzales needs to become the full offensive coordinator
quote:

Chavis runs two defenses, and you would think he would learn


Great points. But they both won't change unfortunately. Sorry I just have absolutely no faith in CLM any more.
Posted by craignettles
Member since Jan 2005
3287 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:51 pm to
Thanks for the post.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

and LSU just fiddle farted around until UNC hit that 97 yard TD


This has been Crowton and Miles' calling cards ever since they started coaching. I call it the "Jim Tressel" offense. Being an OSU fan as well, I have seen so many Tressel coached games that have done the same thing.

They lack that killer instinct and don't realize that they have their foot right on their throat. When you have them on the ropes, you have to knock them out, plain and simple, and Crowton and Miles have never been able to do that
Posted by 1p56
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:51 pm to
Great post.
Posted by emry123
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:53 pm to
great read!!!! excellent post thanks
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

do this and we lose this game. it'll keep us in some games. absolutely disagree.


He brought one back, had one good kickoff return, and had another on that fake reverse. Randle also had a great return that was called back as well.

There was a lot that could have lost this game, but losing your best defensive player for most of the 2nd half, when you need to step on a team's throat hurts you.

One other thing we didn't understand is why Claiborne was on Boyd so often. With Little out, Boyd is clearly their best receiver and someone that Peterson has to stay on
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24131 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:55 pm to
I will add a few more points:

--Murphy does not belong on the field. He is not up to par--no matter how much people are a fan of him sticking around, he is not an SEC caliber RB.


--Please give Shep the ball in space...put him in motion and hand the damn ball to him. He had another gear that no one can match.

--I have said it since last year, PP will win us a game with his special teams play. He did it tonight.

--Derrick Bryant shouldn't be on the field--we have better talent than him.

--Too many freshman played down the stretch. Simon shouldn't have been on the field for the 97 yard throw.


Posted by TheMonTSteR
Member since Aug 2007
308 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 11:55 pm to
Long, but good. You're making me feel a bit better. I'm still ticked, though.
quote:

Bob needs to be taken out back and beaten like the redneck name he was given.

ROFL! This. I wanted to scream when that touchdown came back, and I wanted to scream again when they said it was T-Bob's fault.
This post was edited on 9/4/10 at 11:56 pm
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