TDings 2011 Top 30....Revised

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30 Stevie Douglas

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Keep hope alive.

I wish I could've seen Magee healthy against Neville. He was the one hobbling around right? That's the only time I saw him and if he's who I think he is he was hurt.

You're really high on Quentin Thomas and Alonzo Lewis.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them both commit soon. I hope we get Sylve at junior day and I think we'll get Beckham too.

Just curious, why do you have Lewis rated so high? I know LSU is great at evaluating the skill positions...especially WR but not much is really out there about him. Any idea why Thomas has fallen a bit under the radar right now outside LSU's eye?

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Not a knock on you at all as I trust your judgement. I just don't understand how Turner at WM has 0 buzz with his numbers as well as where he plays while Magee and Landry are gushed over. You've seen his highlights. The kid is elusive and that 4.12 pro shuttle should be getting him more attention. Maybe we'll see more after the camp circuit this summer.

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1 La'el Collins
2 Anthony Johnson
3 Jermauria Rasco
4 Jarvis Landry
5 Greg Robinson
6 Kenny Hilliard
7 Bradley Sylve
8 Jeremy Hill
9 Quentin Thomas
10 Odell Beckham Jr.
11 Alonzo Lewis
12 Terrance Magee
13 Chucky Hunter
14 Micky Johnson
15 Zack Oliver
16 Renaldo Thomas
17 D’haquille Williams
18 Corey White
19 Jonah Austin
20 Trai Turner
21 Ryan Byrd
22 Paul Turner
23 Dak Prescott
24 Rod Davis
25 Effrem Reed
26 Beau Fitte
27 Levander Liggins
28 Javante Watson
29 Evan Tatford
30 Stevie Douglas

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Turner was a very difficult prospect to fit in the rankings. I agree completely with you that the skill is there for him to be much higher. However, he is purely an athlete and I wonder where he will play at the college level. If he works out at CB and shuts people down during the camp circuit, he is going to fly up the rankings--and he has that kind of potential. I am just hesitant to put him way up there this early.

Looking at where he is ranked at 22, you have these guys in general ranked around him:

I gave R. Thomas a big bump with the LSU offer in hand and the other solid reports on him coming out. However, there still is no film on him so I didn't want to push him any higher.

Williams is someone you can argue should be even higher, but the grades make him an automatic JUCO style guy. He will push a little higher eventually I would imagine.

White is a current commit, so that is something holding his spot for now.

Jonah and Trai are two very intriguing guys. There measurables are perfect and a lot of good things are being said about these two. I hope film comes out soon on them. Road grater style OL are big time players and are less of a 'risk' to rank a little higher than a pure ATH, IMO. So, that is why I have them there.

Byrd has pure size and ability, but is a tweener. He can play small D1 at WR, but could be a solid prospect at S if he increases his defensive mentality. Again, the 6'3 frame and mix of talents is why I have him there.

Then you are to Turner.

Then Prescott who is an interesting QB prospect and Davis who there is no film of yet. Davis is someone that is said to have serious hops, but with no footage, it is hard to substantiate things. He has good size though.

Hopefully that gives a little bit of the reasoning for why I put Turner where I have him currently.

I will not hesitate to move him up or down if needed.

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You're really high on Quentin Thomas and Alonzo Lewis.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them both commit soon. I hope we get Sylve at junior day and I think we'll get Beckham too.

Just curious, why do you have Lewis rated so high? I know LSU is great at evaluating the skill positions...especially WR but not much is really out there about him. Any idea why Thomas has fallen a bit under the radar right now outside LSU's eye?

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There early offers at substantial areas of need has to say a lot. You are right though, there is not a ton available on those guys. Some people say that Lewis will eventually be a tall CB rather than a WR. If so, then that would actually be even better if he can fit that role as an ATH. It would allow us to take some shots at national WRs (Nigel King, Trey Metoyer, etc). Thomas was one of the first offers at DT and he got one over both Chucky and Micky....again, I think that speaks volumes. There is also a little film on him and I really like his frame.

Not sure why Thomas is under the radar--maybe lack of film?

Sylve and Beckham would be great for junior day. I think we will get quite a few more guys on board. The sooner the better, IMO.

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How do you feel about Effrem Reed?

I know he has a offer but do you think its commitable? He doesn't seem to have great measurables and seems the opposite of what LSU usually goes for in a DB. Hes only around 5-8, 170lbs and runs somewhere around a 4.6? Are those to be believed? His size is a big question mark, especially since LSU likes to go for bigger CBs...I don't really understand that offer this early.

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Are we sure he has an offer? I vaguely remember him maybe getting one...but I am not sure.

His size is a definite concern, which is why I dropped him some this time with the new names appearing on board. If he is really 5'8, then I don't know why LSU would really consider him at CB. He has decent RB footage, but TM took that last spot.

I don't think its a commitable offer to be honest. Recruits get confused with those all the time. If he really does have a offer...it seems like a Ron Cooper offer to me. He seems to like those type of guys in his history. You'd have to think Jabriel Washington is our main target at CB right now.

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I don't think its a commitable offer to be honest. Recruits get confused with those all the time. If he really does have a offer...it seems like a Ron Cooper offer to me. He seems to like those type of guys in his history.

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That was the only thing I was a little worried about with the Cooper hire. He did a lot with guys that were 'missing' something when they were being recruited. Either a shorter prospect, or slower, or not the best hips, etc. and turned them into solid SEC performers....

But LSU and USCe are on two different platforms IMO as far as who we can go after and land. I hope that he doesn't lower standards at all just because he has had similar success in the past with the 'misfit' players.

Did that make any sense?

ETA: I am not accusing Cooper of doing this, but it is something in the back of my mind. We will see what this 2011 secondary class looks like before we make any judgements there.

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Sometimes there just isn't a real explanation to some of the recruiting anomalies. Turner looks like just as good, if not better of a prospect, as DJ Banks did at the same time in their careers, yet Banks was blowing up on the services, and Turner has not.

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Banks got some early love and attention from Saban and bama. A lot of early buzz is not sustainable.

And yes, Turner is lights out better than Banks.

Great job on the list, Lynx. I know what you mean, that it is very difficult to rank these guys at this point in time, but I think you did the best you can right now.

Look at their numbers and explain it to me. Turner and Landry are the same height, but Turner is thicker, stronger, and faster. He plays in one of the top programs in the nation so exposure isn't a problem.

Landry: 5'11" 185 4.55 40 4.42 shuttle vert 27.3
Turner: 5'11" 190 4.45 40 4.12 shuttle vert 36.5

We've all seen both of their highlight videos. I'm not saying Turner is 100% better than Landry. I'm asking why there is such a HUGE gap between the two in recruiting hype.


ETA: Turner has a 4.0 so grades definitely aren't an issue.