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re: How did we pass on Tyrell Fenroy?
Posted on 10/7/08 at 9:30 pm to TigerinDFW
Posted on 10/7/08 at 9:30 pm to TigerinDFW
Whats up chucksters? I know quite a few people from SCC. W. Stein, J.James, B.Madere. I'm guessing you know them.
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Posted on 10/7/08 at 9:30 pm to Derby Tigah
quote:Williams can't run inside. And it looks like he can't hit the corner this year. Somethings up with him.
man, I disagree
Murphy is unproven. So that automatically makes Fenroy better than him.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 9:34 pm to Acreboy
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Williams can't run inside. And it looks like he can't hit the corner this year. Somethings up with him.
Murphy is unproven. So that automatically makes Fenroy better than him.
I'd take Murphy's verstaility and athleticism...yeah, he has not gotten off the ground in limited action, but have you honestly seen opportunity to do so? I haven't...when he has been in the game and gotten the rock the opposing Ds have been in the backfield. I'm not disappointed in Dick yet, just think he's been a bit unlucky.
Keiland has had disappointing moments where you wish he ran with more passion, but we know what Keiland can be when Keiland is in a groove...no question he is a better back than Fenroy...at least in my eyes
Posted on 10/7/08 at 9:46 pm to Derby Tigah
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What year did you graduate from SCC?
87, Before your time I'm guessing.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:02 pm to TygerTee
Yep. I graduated in 1995.
Yep Cornholio. I knew those of those guys.
Yep Cornholio. I knew those of those guys.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:04 pm to TigerinDFW
my sister (Andrea) was a senior when you was a junior, I think
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:16 pm to 31TIGERS
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For anyone to say this cat would be better, or "all around" better than Charles Scott is absurd.
Better than Charles Scott? Hell no. But just because a player plays for a small school against weaker competition, doesn't mean that he can't play for a bigger school.
How many rushing yards in a season would an SEC-caliber running back have if he suddenly played for a Sun Belt school? You can't judge a player simply because of the team he plays for.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:19 pm to LordSaintly
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You can't judge a player simply because of the team he plays for.
Not totally true. Not many shitty players playing in the SEC.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:21 pm to JJ27
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Not many shitty players playing in the SEC.
Good point.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:23 pm to LordSaintly
in fenroy's favor is that he has only played against 1 Sunbelt defense this year. He ran well against K-State, I don't remember what he did at Illinois.
Every year some HS kid flies under the radar and signs with a smaller school. I'm sure Fenroy is more motivated at a perceived slight by the bigger schools who passed on him. In a few cases, possibly even his, this motivation actually leads these players to become better football players than the larger school players.
Just think, if D. Byrd had been eligible out of high school he'd be at FIU. Would he be any worse of a receiver? I doubt it. It's just an example of how guys can slip through the cracks.
Every year some HS kid flies under the radar and signs with a smaller school. I'm sure Fenroy is more motivated at a perceived slight by the bigger schools who passed on him. In a few cases, possibly even his, this motivation actually leads these players to become better football players than the larger school players.
Just think, if D. Byrd had been eligible out of high school he'd be at FIU. Would he be any worse of a receiver? I doubt it. It's just an example of how guys can slip through the cracks.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:33 pm to ProjectP2294
That's true. I imagine recruiting isn't an exact science, and since there are so many prospects every year, it's easy to see why players like Fenroy can be overlooked.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:34 pm to ProjectP2294
Individual Statistics (Final)
The Automated ScoreBook
UL vs #8 LSU (Sep 02, 2006 at Baton Rouge, LA)
Rushing No Gain Loss Net TD Lg Avg
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Fenroy, Tyrell 12 52 0 52 0 17 4.3
Wallace, Deon 7 28 4 24 0 12 3.4
Johnson, Cheste 2 13 0 13 0 11 6.5
Rubin, Caleb 4 10 0 10 0 5 2.5
Desormeaux, Mic 1 8 0 8 0 8 8.0
Levier, Abdule 2 5 0 5 0 3 2.5
Roberson, Chanc 1 1 0 1 0 1 1.0
Babb, Jerry 6 7 7 0 0 5 0.0
Totals... 35 124 11 113 0 17 3.2
This is from ULL's web site
12 for 52 not terrible against LSU's D, he also had one catch for 8 yards
The Automated ScoreBook
UL vs #8 LSU (Sep 02, 2006 at Baton Rouge, LA)
Rushing No Gain Loss Net TD Lg Avg
--------------------------------------------
Fenroy, Tyrell 12 52 0 52 0 17 4.3
Wallace, Deon 7 28 4 24 0 12 3.4
Johnson, Cheste 2 13 0 13 0 11 6.5
Rubin, Caleb 4 10 0 10 0 5 2.5
Desormeaux, Mic 1 8 0 8 0 8 8.0
Levier, Abdule 2 5 0 5 0 3 2.5
Roberson, Chanc 1 1 0 1 0 1 1.0
Babb, Jerry 6 7 7 0 0 5 0.0
Totals... 35 124 11 113 0 17 3.2
This is from ULL's web site
12 for 52 not terrible against LSU's D, he also had one catch for 8 yards
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:35 pm to ProjectP2294
Here's his numbers against just BCS Conference foes if anyone is interested...
2008
Illinois - 14 rush, 20 yards, 1.4 ypc; 6 catches, 52 yards
Kansas State - 20 rush, 183 yards, 9.2 ypc, 3 TD; 1 catch, 12 yards
2007
South Carolina - 16 rush, 88 yards, 5.5 ypc; 2 catches, -3 yards
Tennessee - 14 rush, 113 yards, 8.1 ypc, 1 TD; 1 catch, 14 yards
2006
LSU - 12 rush, 52 yards, 4.3 ypc; 1 catch, 8 yards
Texas A & M - 4 rush, 17 yards, 4.3 ypc
2005
Texas - 7 rush, 25 yards, 3.6 ypc; 2 catches, 20 yards
2008
Illinois - 14 rush, 20 yards, 1.4 ypc; 6 catches, 52 yards
Kansas State - 20 rush, 183 yards, 9.2 ypc, 3 TD; 1 catch, 12 yards
2007
South Carolina - 16 rush, 88 yards, 5.5 ypc; 2 catches, -3 yards
Tennessee - 14 rush, 113 yards, 8.1 ypc, 1 TD; 1 catch, 14 yards
2006
LSU - 12 rush, 52 yards, 4.3 ypc; 1 catch, 8 yards
Texas A & M - 4 rush, 17 yards, 4.3 ypc
2005
Texas - 7 rush, 25 yards, 3.6 ypc; 2 catches, 20 yards
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:39 pm to thunderbird1100
Good info Thunderbird.
I didn't know he put up those kind of numbers against the Vols, in the year they won the east no less
I didn't know he put up those kind of numbers against the Vols, in the year they won the east no less
Posted on 10/7/08 at 10:52 pm to TygerTee
FWIW, Fenroy has only played one game against the Sun Belt this year and is 3rd in the nation.
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:49 pm to JJ27
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I watched him Saturday and don't think he'd start over Scott. Not saying he can't play, but I think Scott's better
Funny you should say that, because St. Charles held him to under 75 total yards in his final HS game. And Fenroy had a total of one fumble his senior year at St. Charles.
This post was edited on 1/15/09 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:58 pm to ProjectP2294
He was not good enough, plain and simple.
Posted on 1/15/09 at 6:05 pm to redsox75
please i played with him for 3 years at st.charles catholic and he could play for any sec school...my senior year we also played against Charles scott who was averaging 200 a game and held him to 67 yards rushing and killed them 46-7 so i played against both but im not saying who was better but i know they werent far off!!!
Posted on 1/15/09 at 6:13 pm to thunderbird1100
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Here's his numbers against just BCS Conference foes if anyone is interested...
2008
Illinois - 14 rush, 20 yards, 1.4 ypc; 6 catches, 52 yards
Kansas State - 20 rush, 183 yards, 9.2 ypc, 3 TD; 1 catch, 12 yards
2007
South Carolina - 16 rush, 88 yards, 5.5 ypc; 2 catches, -3 yards
Tennessee - 14 rush, 113 yards, 8.1 ypc, 1 TD; 1 catch, 14 yards
2006
LSU - 12 rush, 52 yards, 4.3 ypc; 1 catch, 8 yards
Texas A & M - 4 rush, 17 yards, 4.3 ypc
2005
Texas - 7 rush, 25 yards, 3.6 ypc; 2 catches, 20 yards
2007
McNeese - 20 rush, 82 yards, 4.1 ypc; 1 catch, 7 yards
McNeese had smallish DTs (compared to usual) as well.
This post was edited on 1/15/09 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 1/15/09 at 6:13 pm to thunderbird1100
Deleted - Double posted due to LSUSecure sucking as usual.
This post was edited on 1/15/09 at 6:18 pm
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