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re: Erick Fowler no longer with Texas

Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12894 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:52 pm to
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Texas buddy just told me. Told him I bet they wish they had Chaisson
have stolen and already used twice. Belated thanks!
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It seems like more often than not kids that spurn us last minute like Fowler REALLY end up not working out
Might as well kick off the list; just off the top of my head. Curious where it ends up; I'm assuming we remember the one's that flipped from us and flopped rather than the opposite or the one's that did just fine (it's human nature).

Flop/Struggled:
Toshirio Davis
Tony Brown (as compared to stars and expectations)
Gerald Willis
Fowler
Kiel
*dis-honorable mention(s): Hootie

Did just fine:
Landon Collins (not a flip, but last minute decision)
Reuben Foster (not LSU, but a double-flip with AU/Bama who did just fine)
*dis-honorable mention(s): Cam Robinson (neither flip or last-minute);

TBD:
Felipe Franks

Does Speedy belong anywhere here? I say no. Not a flip, he was never "LSU's to lose" in recruiting at same time while he started for a year with very good results in the end he was off team. He either belongs on every list, or none.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Section225
Member since Jun 2011
3693 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:56 pm to
He weighed in at 6'2" 260 lbs at Texas's spring game. Id tell him to lose 15 pounds and come play backup ILB here at LSU.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:10 pm to
You missed a bunch that didn't work out including the one that shall not he named that wore orange and white before wearing permanent orange
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:12 pm to
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Does Speedy belong anywhere here? I say no. Not a flip, he was never "LSU's to lose"


But you have Landon Collins, Willis, and brown. None flipped.

Pat White flipped
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7587 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:26 pm to
Almost all the guys you listed didn't flip from LSU... you're off point.
Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
Member since Apr 2008
8804 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:33 pm to
How could you make a "flip" list of those who flopped and not name Janzen Jackson?!?!
Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4312 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:38 pm to
It's spooky how things haven't worked out for a lot of these guys. Fowler, Kiel, Willis, Noil, Brown just to name a few. It's like the curse of the Bambino.

Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8736 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:01 pm to
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Kicked off for what though?


Unreliable, always late and cutting up.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50767 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by BASED
yamamma the OG
Member since May 2012
3354 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:13 pm to
I think Speedy should be on that list since it's widely known that he told his uncle Frank Wilson he was coming to LSU the day before he announced
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10289 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:07 am to
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Almost all the guys you listed didn't flip from LSU... you're off point.


Yes, and also these comments are always one sided and hypocritical. We rejoice when a commit flips to LSU after pledging to another program. Granted some do it so in less than a classy manner but most just end up where their heart is or whatever influences their decision making.

Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12894 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:47 am to
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lmost all the guys you listed didn't flip from LSU... you're off point.
I am, knowingly. I figured many of those names would be thrown out anyway being recent and highly publicized based off the confusion in the recent "2 for 5" threads.

List not supposed to be comprehensive. Just names that came to mind at the time. But, to forget Jackson is an oversight. It should have been the first name that came to mind.

I'm more interested in the one's that flipped (away or to us, either) that did well frankly. Notice my own "off top of head" list is short; and the one's I came up with weren't even flips. Even more interesting, if the list the board comes up with for successful are mostly to LSU, I find that even more intriguing.

To add to the list:

TBD: Chaisson, Phillips
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
Member since Mar 2015
3880 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:35 am to
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Pat White flipped


Saban wanted him as a WR. West Virginia offered him a shot to come in and play QB.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7530 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:41 am to
Damn, Texas lost Jordan Elliot, a good DT out of highschool, and another D Lineman too. That's going to set them back on Defense, which already sucked.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:15 am to
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Saban wanted him as a WR. West Virginia offered him a shot to come in and play QB.


some kids you can understand their flip.

Others they just do it due to poor decision making. Anytime I see a kid flip to or from schools 2-3 times the summer before signing day I always cringe a bit. Don't care if he's an LSU signee or not, it doesn't look very good.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12894 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:34 am to
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some kids you can understand their flip.

Others they just do it due to poor decision making. Anytime I see a kid flip to or from schools 2-3 times the summer before signing day I always cringe a bit. Don't care if he's an LSU signee or not, it doesn't look very good.
Same here, I do cringe (sometimes laugh if the school is one I dislike).

For the life of me I can not think of a logical reason to flip more than once. Emotional reasons, yes. Logical, no.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10018 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:35 am to
Patrick Peterson flipped from Miami to LSU. That one worked out wonderfully for us.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8620 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:02 am to
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Makes for an awkward last tweet of his a few days ago

Dnt know what I would do or who I would be without this Orange and White"




Unless he goes to Rocky Top
Posted by Beards of Vikings
Member since May 2017
68 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:07 am to
Does he have to return the money to turtleneck midget strong?
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:48 am to
Fowler played as a freshman.. he's got talent.. I think he wanted Lsu but folded to family pressure.. look at what Aranda has done with Riley and Alexander.. he could have worked wonders with fowler
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