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re: 2015 DB Roney Elam commits to texas a&m
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:11 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:11 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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Whoa, there buddy. No one on here is getting their panties in a wad except you.
Im perfectly calm. Perhaps I am not viewed as such because I am defending the dissenting opinion right now. I usually fight for the underdog, or the person who cannot fight back. These guys cant really tell off their customers. They are professionals, so they have to act accordingly.
I also chime in at restaurants when a customer is loudly demeaning the wait staff. I have no skin the in the game, but I do like to view a situation from all angles, and ensure a fair fight
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:12 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Well said. Can't fault him for sticking with his home state. Wish he would have chosen DBU!
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:16 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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We're just stating the FACT that like 85% of the time the "insiders" are dead wrong.
re-read this one moer time, bud.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:16 pm to colors_of_kings
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Well said. Can't fault him for sticking with his home state. Wish he would have chosen DBU!
Thanks. Me too. I suppose you must take the bad with the good, however.
BTW, I like your screename
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:17 pm to cas4t
oh well
I don't think anyone was really expecting this kid until the CBs started switching a week ago anyways
I don't think anyone was really expecting this kid until the CBs started switching a week ago anyways
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:17 pm to sunnydaze
I agree...6'3" 170...not sure how this kid doesn't fill out to 200 over time and become a safety.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:18 pm to colors_of_kings
I'm in the process of starting my own Insider Recruiting Service. It will basically work like this i'll let the kid narrow it down to two schools then i'll throw a dart at the two schools photos on the wall. Whoever i hit will be my inside source. 50/50 shot i'll be right which is better than most of these insiders's 
. The Kids that narrow it down to 3 or 4 schools will require more photos for the wall . The only other job that comes close to predicting recruiting is predicting the weather. Wrong more than half the time but still have a job.
. The Kids that narrow it down to 3 or 4 schools will require more photos for the wall . The only other job that comes close to predicting recruiting is predicting the weather. Wrong more than half the time but still have a job.Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:26 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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I can never fault a kid who chooses to attend their home state school in an attempt to build something special.
Oh, I'm not faulting him at all. The kid is going to get a top notch education for free. Can't fault anyone for that.
I'm just scratching my head and trying to understand the thought process.
Putting myself in that situation and being as unbiased as possible, I'm certainly going to evaluate the recent success of each program I'm considering and I'll choose the one that I feel is going to give me the best opportunity to advance to the next level.
From that stand point, it's not even a discussion. That's a no brainer. Again, I haven't followed this kid. His family could be die hard Aggies and there's little chance anything could have pulled him away from there. It happens, a lot.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:28 pm to FLObserver
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process of starting my own Insider Recruiting Service. It will basically work like this i'll let the kid narrow it down to two schools then i'll throw a dart at the two schools photos on the wall. Whoever i hit will be my inside source. 50/50 shot i'll be right which is better than most of these insiders's . The Kids that narrow it down to 3 or 4 schools will require more photos for the wall . The only other job that comes close to predicting recruiting is predicting the weather. Wrong more than half the time but still have a job.
In the words of Outkast, "You can plan a pretty picnic, but you cant predict the weather."
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:28 pm to FLObserver
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Posted by FLObserver I'm in the process of starting my own Insider Recruiting Service. It will basically work like this i'll let the kid narrow it down to two schools then i'll throw a dart at the two schools photos on the wall. Whoever i hit will be my inside source. 50/50 shot i'll be right which is better than most of these insiders's . The Kids that narrow it down to 3 or 4 schools will require more photos for the wall . The only other job that comes close to predicting recruiting is predicting the weather. Wrong more than half the time but still have a job.
LOL
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:30 pm to Austin Cajun
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Oh, I'm not faulting him at all. The kid is going to get a top notch education for free. Can't fault anyone for that.
I'm just scratching my head and trying to understand the thought process.
Putting myself in that situation and being as unbiased as possible, I'm certainly going to evaluate the recent success of each program I'm considering and I'll choose the one that I feel is going to give me the best opportunity to advance to the next level.
From that stand point, it's not even a discussion. That's a no brainer. Again, I haven't followed this kid. His family could be die hard Aggies and there's little chance anything could have pulled him away from there. It happens, a lot.
Well, we can both agree on that. Though, if I were given the chance, and I was an elite athlete, I dont care how much money or opportunities Saban could afford me, I would go to North Dakota State if that were my only other offer. It would be a terrible business decision, but I have my reasons.
I have been known to be very hard headed.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:35 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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I make mistakes in my personal life and professional life, and I usually have better information to base my decisions off of than these guys. Im just happy that when I screw up, its not out there in the public for all you a**holes to dissect
It's all about how you present yourself as well. Sonny and Shea both said on their site that they didn't feel confident about Elam at all, and the only reason they picked LSU was b/c there was a lot of optimism coming from the coaches. They readily admitted they didn't know what was going to happen. As a result, nobody on their site or on here is taking shots at them b/c they were upfront about it.
I think the backlash is coming against those that outright assert the destination of a kid, and then get defensive/angry when questioned about their pick. Then, when they turn out to be wrong about where the kid commits to, they refuse to admit they were wrong and just chalk it up to "recruiting". Arrogance makes for any easy target
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:36 pm to Mattwells90
I'm not sorry for his loss.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:36 pm to Mattwells90
I'm not sorry for his loss.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:41 pm to OldManRiver
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It's all about how you present yourself as well. Sonny and Shea both said on their site that they didn't feel confident about Elam at all, and the only reason they picked LSU was b/c there was a lot of optimism coming from the coaches. They readily admitted they didn't know what was going to happen. As a result, nobody on their site or on here is taking shots at them b/c they were upfront about it.
I think the backlash is coming against those that outright assert the destination of a kid, and then get defensive/angry when questioned about their pick. Then, when they turn out to be wrong about where the kid commits to, they refuse to admit they were wrong and just chalk it up to "recruiting". Arrogance makes for any easy target
Listen, again I have no skin in the game. Jimmy has admitted he used to be a bit defensive and brash. He said he has learned and moved on. I can understand that, as I am quite a bit more polished than I was even 5 years ago.
I did read his prediction article, and I quote below.
"After digging in all week regarding this matter, I fully expect LSU to be the school this standout prospect chooses. There is a lot of conflicting info regarding the situation, which always makes things interesting, but things seem to have worked out in the Tigers' favor on this one from what I gather. But it's still recruiting and we won't know until Elam says so."
Read that last sentence. That is hardly arrogant. Perhaps his past transgressions have skewed your present perspective, but as someone who is truly unbiased, I see nothing arrogant about this projection
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:48 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Should recruiting stargazers start to worry?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:57 pm to cas4t
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We're just stating the FACT that like 85% of the time the "insiders" are dead wrong.
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re-read this one moer time, bud.
edit: We're just stating the PRESUMPTION that IT SEEMS LIKE 85% of the time
BTW... "more"
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:58 pm to mikeytig
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Should recruiting stargazers start to worry?
To be completely frank, I used to be the worst stargazer. I have followed this site and recruiting for about 7 or 8 years now.
In that time, I saw 5 stars Chris Davenport, Al Woods, Ryan Perrilloux, etc disappoint. Some five stars have character issues, lack discipline, or simply peak in highschool. I also saw underrated players Tryann Mathieu, Claiborne, Hester, etc exceed my wildest expectations.
The true indicator of recruiting talent cannot be measured until your players leave your program for the NFL. As I stated before, we are either number 1 or 2 in the last ten years in putting players in the big league. Recruiting experts have a huge amount on their plates. They have to decide on 25-35 players in the entire population of highschool football players to award 5 stars to.
Stop for a second and try to quantify that. Its an intimidating and inexact method.
We have one if the best if not the best staff in entirety in the country. Miles, Cameron, Chavis and Wilson are a dreamteam, specifically. Again, we lose our share of battles, but overall, I worry about very little, and am quite satisfied with the quality of character and talent that our staff identifies and rounds up
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:59 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Honestly some of y'all take it way too personally if recruiting mods get a pick wrong. They still get more right than wrong, and work hard to get their subscribers the info they pay for. It's an inexact science.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:00 pm to AgBank
He must not have watched the cheer yell video on yesterday's SECN launch
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