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re: So what would be the rules/guidelines of a Religion & Philosophy Board?
Posted on 4/21/12 at 5:51 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 4/21/12 at 5:51 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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nailed it.
relgion is probably the most debated things on this board because those who are religious like to argue it a lot, and things get heated especially with the mind set of most atheists, who think we should do what we can to disprove christians, and its hard to convince someone who believes what they believe in their heart, and not just their head.
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 5:53 pm to catholictigerfan
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believe in their heart, and not just their head.
Your heart is incapable of believing anything.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 5:58 pm to catholictigerfan
I honestly hope this board, if it should ever exist, would focus more on the philosophy side than the religion side.
Stout's analysis summed up my sentiments on this topic and how it relates to this forum.
Which is why this board would not be very stimulating unless a large portion of it was philosophical discussions as opposed to God/Jesus vs Atheists/Agnostics.
Stout's analysis summed up my sentiments on this topic and how it relates to this forum.
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Honestly, those threads are always the same trolls in them. It's not as much good open discussion as they would lead you to believe. It's sick the enjoyment they get out of making fun of someone's beliefs. I think what you did today was the way to go and leave it at that. No one here is going to change someones minds one way or the other and the discussions always spiral out of control.
Which is why this board would not be very stimulating unless a large portion of it was philosophical discussions as opposed to God/Jesus vs Atheists/Agnostics.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 6:00 pm to TheDoc
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Your heart is incapable of believing anything.
its a figure of speech, you should know this.
just like a player diving for a ball you hear people say he is putting his heart into it.
believing something in the heart is believing in something so much that it is a way of life for you, along with other things.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 6:01 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Which is why this board would not be very stimulating unless a large portion of it was philosophical discussions as opposed to God/Jesus vs Atheists/Agnostics.
I was thinking about starting a thread that talked about the possibility of metaphysics if and when this board goes under a substantial change.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 6:02 pm to TheDoc
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Worldviews and Science board
Just worldviews IMO
There's a good case to be made for this, although the name "Worldviews Board" seems kind of overboard hippie.
The more I think about how religious and tech subjects can be divided among several different boards, the more I think it might be for the best to leave the dividing lines ambiguous. That is, I think it might be best to leave "Religion" without a specific destination board.
If you want a "prayers needed" thread, start one on the O-T Lounge board.
If you want a "churches should lose their tax exempt status" thread or a "why do Jews vote Democrat?" thread or a "Obama messed up by offending Catholics" thread, start one on the Political Talk board.
If you want a "why the Gnostics were wrong about Original Sin" thread or a "Buddhism is more in line with modern science than Christianity" thread or "I can decipher the codes of the universe through Kabbalah" thread, start one on the Philosophy, Science, and Morality board.
Or maybe you could call it the Philosophy, Ultimate Reality, and Morality board. IDK. I'm still unclear on what the thing should be called. I do think it should have some tie-in to scientific and moral subjects, and perhaps should exclude the specific term "religion" for the purposes of the title.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 6:30 pm to Doc Fenton
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Philosophy, Science, and Morality board.
you mean like "worldviews" ?
Posted on 4/21/12 at 6:40 pm to TheDoc
Yeah, it's not the subject meaning of "Worldviews" I've got a beef with; it's just the dumb way it sounds and all the hippie connotations.
Like I don't want to wander over to a board if I feel like I'm walking into some Portlandia alternative bookshop with amulets, cosmic crystals, ouija boards, scented candles, Native American medicine man blessed trinkets, shaman's peyote, and shite. Amirite?
P.S. -- By the way, according to Deuteronomy 3:11, Og was the king of the Amirites, possibly living near the ancient city of Jebus.
Like I don't want to wander over to a board if I feel like I'm walking into some Portlandia alternative bookshop with amulets, cosmic crystals, ouija boards, scented candles, Native American medicine man blessed trinkets, shaman's peyote, and shite. Amirite?
P.S. -- By the way, according to Deuteronomy 3:11, Og was the king of the Amirites, possibly living near the ancient city of Jebus.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 6:51 pm to BrerTiger
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However, I am sorry the religious topics have become such a pain in the arse for the admins. I think, however, that is largely because people don't want to see religion clogging up the OT or the Poli Board.
Yep. I'd say that the hypothetical new Philosophy, Truth, and Morality Board is to the Poli Board what the Poli Board is to the O-T.
Everything about PoliTalk discussions that people on the OT hate are the same things about philosophical and religious discussions that people on the PoliTalk board hate.
It's just one big spectrum from whimsical and lighthearted to super cereal, deep, and personally uncomfortable.
Just like many people say, "atheists/theists who constantly debate all this stuff because they are insecure, and I'm secure so I don't want to debate it," I think is similar to the sentiment many OT people have about politics.
There are times when you want to keep discussion light and social, and not tread on controversial subjects, and there are other times when you get tired of all the same old trivial bullcrap, and you want to actually talk about something that has meaning.
The sound & fury of modern politics can in many ways be seen as just a middle ground between the random barbershop-style shooting of the shite found on the OT, and the super serious and personal "are you telling me Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?" stuff that tends to occur when religion and philosophy get involved.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 7:16 pm to Doc Fenton
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However, I am sorry the religious topics have become such a pain in the arse for the admins. I think, however, that is largely because people don't want to see religion clogging up the OT or the Poli Board.
How in gods name are a couple Of threads clogging up the board?
bullshite.
This post was edited on 4/21/12 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 4/21/12 at 7:21 pm to Lacour
It goes in cycles. You'd be surprised at how much the PoliBoard can get inundated with religious threads at times. There have been stretches of a few days at a time when roughly half the threads on the first page constituted fights about religion.
With the periodic waves of religious spam have come periodic crackdowns by admins. It's a system that works pretty well, but it does lack consistency. For those who demand consistency from the admins, new rules for allocating particular threads to particular boards are needed.
With the periodic waves of religious spam have come periodic crackdowns by admins. It's a system that works pretty well, but it does lack consistency. For those who demand consistency from the admins, new rules for allocating particular threads to particular boards are needed.
This post was edited on 4/21/12 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 4/21/12 at 7:25 pm to Doc Fenton
there would probably be inconsistency on the religion board as well.
there would be threads like the gay jesus thread that would go for a little while just because the aminds may be slow to respond that day, or they are just deciding to be lax on the rules.
but personally I think the rules we set out at the beginning should be the constant rules, and if you have to add rules do only if its absolutely necessary.
there would be threads like the gay jesus thread that would go for a little while just because the aminds may be slow to respond that day, or they are just deciding to be lax on the rules.
but personally I think the rules we set out at the beginning should be the constant rules, and if you have to add rules do only if its absolutely necessary.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 7:29 pm to catholictigerfan
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there would probably be inconsistency on the religion board as well.
That's why I'm against creating a Religion Board.
Also, there is inconsistency with the application of all human rules, but's that another matter.
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but personally I think the rules we set out at the beginning should be the constant rules, and if you have to add rules do only if its absolutely necessary.
You sound so inflexible.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 7:34 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:I've actually read this on TD in the past.
"atheists/theists who constantly debate all this stuff because they are insecure, and I'm secure so I don't want to debate it,"
quote:So you would stay away from a board called Political Talk?
There are times when you want to keep discussion light and social, and not tread on controversial subjects,
Posted on 4/21/12 at 7:52 pm to Gmorgan4982
Depends on the day, bro.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 7:56 pm to Doc Fenton
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You sound so inflexible.
it seems you would be more ok with that if you don't like the inconsistency of the aminds
Posted on 4/21/12 at 8:01 pm to catholictigerfan
I seldom make consistency complaints (even in baseball), and I don't remember arguing for or against admin policy with respect to sending religious threads to the OT or Poli Board.
I have always wanted a board that was more philosophically oriented though, to discuss things like cosmology, the origin of life, the origin of language/religion/self-awareness, etc.
I have always wanted a board that was more philosophically oriented though, to discuss things like cosmology, the origin of life, the origin of language/religion/self-awareness, etc.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 8:28 pm to catholictigerfan
Tell me what was so horribly wrong with the gay Jesus thread?
It was an article from a major newspaper and I considered it newsworthy.
Was the article so offensive or was it the sandy vagina reactions from people on the OT?
It was an article from a major newspaper and I considered it newsworthy.
Was the article so offensive or was it the sandy vagina reactions from people on the OT?
Posted on 4/21/12 at 8:36 pm to BrerTiger
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Tell me what was so horribly wrong with the gay Jesus thread?
i don't know I was just using it as an example, it may have been a good thread, but it seems many have complained about it.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 8:44 pm to BrerTiger
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Tell me what was so horribly wrong with the gay Jesus thread? It was an article from a major newspaper and I considered it newsworthy. Was the article so offensive or was it the sandy vagina reactions from people on the OT?
It apparently offended chicken.
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