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anyone with teenage sons that weight train?
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:42 pm
My son is 17 and weight trains 5 days a week. Meat potatoes and protein shakes are the only things that he takes in. He has a clean diet.
Are there are SAFE supplements besides protein that will increase strength? He plays football and is a running back.
THANKS
Are there are SAFE supplements besides protein that will increase strength? He plays football and is a running back.
THANKS
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 3:15 pm
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:43 pm to Tic44
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Are there are SAFE supplements besides protein that will increase strength
Just plain old food. Lots of food. Maintain activity and he will gain
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:43 pm to Tic44
Steroids
this was originally on the ot
this was originally on the ot
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:44 pm to Tic44
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Are there are SAFE supplements besides protein that will increase strength? He
Yeah its called being a 17 year old boy. Thats like the best supplement in the world.
He should probably eat vegetables.
Creatine Monohydrate is the only "supplement" that is not a scam. 5mg a day is good. Cheapest shite out there. 60 servings for like 15 bucks.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:45 pm to Tic44
I would vet he needs flexibility as well......he needs stretching or he will train himself right into injury
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:45 pm to Hester Carries
I agree with Hester. Creatine is generally considered safe for people without underlying kidney disease or something.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:46 pm to GeeOH
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he needs stretching
yes his coach mentioned this. Hes in yoga
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:48 pm to Tic44
Quit wasting money on protein supplements. Eat more fats and leafy green veggies.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:49 pm to NotoriousFSU
he eats nonstop. Hes basically been a turd factory since he started taking whey protein
Posted on 5/30/17 at 3:00 pm to NotoriousFSU
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Quit wasting money on protein supplements
Go on ...
I wouldn't waste money on creatine
Posted on 5/30/17 at 3:06 pm to GynoSandberg
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I wouldn't waste money on creatine
Yeah man, that 5 bucks a month really hurtin the wallet.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 3:11 pm to Tic44
Being 17 with all that natural testosterone is the best supplement.
But protein, BCAAs, an Creatine Monohydrate are all well documented as safe. Efficacy is often debated for all of them though.
I'd say those 3 supplements are safe and if you get the right brand, cheap enough to give it a whirl.
I'd recommend he gets the vast majority of his protein from whole foods, not shakes. They are supplements, not replacements.
But protein, BCAAs, an Creatine Monohydrate are all well documented as safe. Efficacy is often debated for all of them though.
I'd say those 3 supplements are safe and if you get the right brand, cheap enough to give it a whirl.
I'd recommend he gets the vast majority of his protein from whole foods, not shakes. They are supplements, not replacements.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 3:31 pm to WavinWilly
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protein
Isnt a supplement. No matter the form.
quote:Is just protein. And really only for people who work out in a fasted state.
BCAAs
quote:Among anyone with actual knowledge, the efficacy of protein and Creatine are pretty much accepted. Now they arent steroids and the results are marginal.
Efficacy is often debated for all of them though.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 3:35 pm to Hester Carries
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Isnt a supplement. No matter the form.
It is and should be a supplement to normal dieting.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 3:41 pm to Tic44
Being 17 and active, he is going to be requiring A LOT of calories. Make sure to track his eating for a few days and see about how much he is eating. I'd try to put him on at least a 3000 calories diet that is full of potatoes (sweet or regular), rice, any meat, some veggies (fibrous).
If he wants, add protein to beginning and/or end of workout with the preference towards the end. BCAA's can be taken during the workout or physical activity to help with energy.
I would also add about a Tbsp or 2 of Olive Oil during the day to get healthy fats and maybe some Fish Oil pills. A multivitamin could be introduced if not eating enough color in the food (Green, orange, yellow, red).
Creatine is good but I wouldn't do it unless he has a problem with gaining strength. The mass put on by creatine is usually water. The main benefit of creatine is to give energy to the muscle.
I like to reserve supplementation or tools until after there is a sticking point in the diet/program.
As far as workouts, I use to do Power Cleans, Deadlifts, Lunges, Squats, Pull ups, and a ton of core work for football/baseball. He needs to be on a progressive style program. Doing here and theres aren't that good for gaining strength.
As a running back, he needs explosiveness, leg drive, and a strong back to hold him up while getting hit.
If he wants, add protein to beginning and/or end of workout with the preference towards the end. BCAA's can be taken during the workout or physical activity to help with energy.
I would also add about a Tbsp or 2 of Olive Oil during the day to get healthy fats and maybe some Fish Oil pills. A multivitamin could be introduced if not eating enough color in the food (Green, orange, yellow, red).
Creatine is good but I wouldn't do it unless he has a problem with gaining strength. The mass put on by creatine is usually water. The main benefit of creatine is to give energy to the muscle.
I like to reserve supplementation or tools until after there is a sticking point in the diet/program.
As far as workouts, I use to do Power Cleans, Deadlifts, Lunges, Squats, Pull ups, and a ton of core work for football/baseball. He needs to be on a progressive style program. Doing here and theres aren't that good for gaining strength.
As a running back, he needs explosiveness, leg drive, and a strong back to hold him up while getting hit.
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 5/30/17 at 4:00 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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It is and should be a supplement to normal dieting.
To say protein is a supplement is the same as saying butter is a supplement. Protein is a food.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 4:13 pm to Hester Carries
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To say protein is a supplement is the same as saying butter is a supplement. Protein is a food.
We may be playing a game of semantics here. Not to put words in Hu_Flung's mouth, but when I said it, I meant as a supplement to whole foods. I get it's a pure macro-nutrient, but it's not a "whole food" in the sense of chicken breast. The way I always treated it was to try and get most of my protein from whole foods, and make up the difference, or supplement my diet with, protein powder.
I'm not saying it's a supplement in the same vein of hydroxycut or ephedrine or green tea extract.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 4:31 pm to Hester Carries
Powder bro. Powder. This is the HF forum. We know it's protein powder.
Do you think a multivitamin is a supplement? Well it comes from food. Creatine comes from meat.
Do you think a multivitamin is a supplement? Well it comes from food. Creatine comes from meat.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 4:38 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Powder bro. Powder
That doesnt make it a supplement.
If you are trying to gain wait and you are putting whole milk in your shakes, it doesnt become a supplement. If it is just a form of the Big 3 it isnt a supplement...period.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 4:48 pm to Hester Carries
Give me an example of a supplement.
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