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re: anyone with teenage sons that weight train?

Posted on 5/30/17 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 4:57 pm to
Caffeine
Beta Alanine
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 5:40 pm to
Caffeine is found in plants. Plants are a carbohydrate. Carbs are the big 3. Not a supplement.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 6:04 pm to
Dude just stop, protein powder is a supplement. It is not a main source of food and therefore used to supplement ones diet.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31048 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 6:16 pm to
First let me answer your question

Protein
Creatine mono-10g daily
Glutamine to reduce soreness
Bcaas for recovery
Beta alanine for endurance

Second off his diet should consist of a minimum of
1.5lbs of beef daily
Dozen eggs daily

The rest should come from whatever he wants with the following caveats
Calories should be high enough he is gaining weight on an every two week average
Protein needs to be at 2xs bodyweight. An easy way to do this is eat the above and also have one scoop of protein in unsweetened cashew milk with every meal.
The rest can come from whatever he wants.

If he isn't gaining have him add a tablespoon of olive oil to shakes or have him eat a few scoops of natural nut butter.

If he is gaining too much fat, cut out carbs last few hours before bed and start having him do jump rope to burn cals and improve footwork.



Now my question is why in the hell is he training 5 days a week? What program is he on?

You should think about putting him on one of the following programs:

Greyskull lp linebacker version
Mad cow
531 bbb challenge
531 building the monolith
Super squats

All our free programs or are linked on my google drive in the putthaforkdown thread. The best thing you could do is get him on one of these with the above diet.

Posted by Tres7139
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 6:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 6:18 pm
Posted by Tres7139
Member since Oct 2011
770 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 6:18 pm to
Stop trying to be a jackass know it all.

Everyone fricking here knows that protein powder is a got damn supplement because you drink it to SUPPLEMENT your body whether you use it for meal replacement, snack, post workout, etc.

People like you will ruin this board. Be banned my friend.
Posted by jennyjones
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Member since Apr 2006
9313 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:06 pm to
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If he is gaining too much fat, cut out carbs last few hours before bed and start having him do jump rope to burn cals and improve footwork.



Not to hijack this nutrition thread, but I 100% agree with the jump rope recommendation for football players.

It is very underrated, but is awesome for footwork and keeping body fat in check . 5-10 minutes a day or a few times a week can do wonders
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:28 pm to
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Are there are SAFE supplements besides protein that will increase strength? He plays football and is a running back.


If he's planning on staying eligible, especially for college, I'd take a long look at supplements allowed by the NCAA or your local high school association. They have limits on agents that could be considered masking agents (i.e. Green tea supplements) and while they can no longer legally obtain Creatine from NCAA staff they can take it on their own but it's pretty highly regulated.

Unfortunately, the NCAA does a really shitty job of telling you what you can and can't take and goes with the old "run it by your athletic trainer" deal. I will say a lot of preworkout supplements that are perfectly legal to take can have agents that are banned by the NCAA.

This PDF is a good start with access for a link that can provide more info
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22425 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:40 pm to
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Caffeine is found in plants. Plants are a carbohydrate. Carbs are the big 3. Not a supplement.




There are no carbs in Coffee/caffeine pills. Thats fricking stupid and you know it
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