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re: Anyone Still Doing a Paleo-esque Diet These Days?

Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by reginaphilange
Member since Mar 2014
415 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:23 pm to
I'm in the process of getting back into it. I was on it for two years and lost a lot of weight, felt wonderful, and like you mentioned I didn't need caffeine to get me through the day. My normal 2:30 slumps were a thing of the past. I was never 100% on it, but I would say I was a good 80% and even when I couldn't eat paleo I would always pick the best option available. I've been off of it for about a year and a half, but I have the time to meal prep again so I'm ready to be back full force. Glad to hear you're enjoying it too.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:23 pm to
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no one wants to revert back to that era


because grilled beef and 2 veggies is repulsive?
Posted by jakedel12
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2006
1449 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:25 pm to
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I'm on Day 19 of a liquid juice diet. Green juice, red juice and orange juice. I've had soup with chicken 3 times and protein powder daily. All good so far. Blood work pending, should get results in next 48 hours.


and why are you doing this?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:26 pm to
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More than 10,000 years ago is relatively recent? Maybe to a rock but you might want to do a little more research on this one...


On an evolutionary time scale, yes. Maybe you want to go back to biology 101 on this one.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:30 pm to
I have always ate mostly protiens and fresh vegetables. No sugar, and low carbs. The paleo diet has too many rules, and some don't make sense. I basically eat as a human should.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58655 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:32 pm to
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I have always ate mostly protiens and fresh vegetables. No sugar, and low carbs.


This is what I try to do. This and adding more exercise helped me to lose quite a bit of weight over the past few years.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16558 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:44 pm to
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while youre avoiding that dreaded insulin spike, may want to cut out protein shakes, as well - since they also spike insulin. idiot.



Ummm...insulin spikes are actually good when it comes to muscle growth, insulin being a highly anabolic protein and all. You are supposed to eat in such a way that you spike your insulin levels at the proper times. Idiot indeed.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16558 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:53 pm to
No, you might want to reasearch human biology period on this one. Plenty of published research too.
Posted by pcolatiger28
Pensacola, Fl
Member since Apr 2009
1284 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:51 pm to
How is it working out for you? At what point did you start feeling better. Day 1 sucks and I'm sure more to follow. I just started one to reboot after many years of garbage food and booze. Looking to go around 7-10 days and then just transition to healthier choices.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:16 pm to
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More than 10,000 years ago is relatively recent


On the timescale of evolution, yes it is recent. And if you limit evolution to purely human existence, you are leaving out much of the time in which the "design" of our bodies took place. Animals have been around for much longer than 10,000-12,000 years. Our genetic ancestors are on the scale of millions of years. Our bodies were designed and improved upon from them. 10,000-12,000 years of agriculture (and it's not like we had agriculture on the scale we have today that would lead to us regularly eating grains and such)is a relatively small timeline compared to what it takes for us to evolve into a species designed to live off of those agricultural practices.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47129 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:18 pm to
Sweet potatoes are paleo, dude.
Posted by jrenton
Houston
Member since Mar 2007
1977 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 7:51 pm to
I've been on the slow carb for a couple months. Similar to paleo but only 6 days/week with a cheat day. No fruit, starchy carbs, and limited dairy. Mostly beans veggies and protein. Dropped a quick 10 lbs and have never been leaner. Highly recommend.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:52 am to
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I mean technically we have no reason to consume lactose after infancy.
Which is why you should opt for cheese, butter and heavy cream.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:53 am to
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Red meat? It could help kill you. Lots of evidence.
Nope.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:54 am to
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Red meat? It could help kill you. Lots of evidence.
Nope.
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most of the big light beers has the same number of calories as a straight whiskey,vodka,etc. BTW.
Calories ain't the same as carbs.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31031 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:37 pm to
for health, a strict paleo diet like whole 30 is perfect. I am talking strictly for health.

anybody that argues otherwise is trolling or is dense.

But most people can not stick to this style of diet for very long. That is the problem.

For weight loss, your body does not know the difference between the sugar in berries and the sugar in chocolate. But weight loss and low bf% does not equal health.

perfect example of the above is myself. I am currently at 11% BF per dexascan, I have terrible cholesterol. Most of that is genetics, but when I do the whole30 diet strictly, guess what it improves tremendously.

like i said strictly from a health stand point strict paleo i.e. whole30 is the perfect diet.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:32 pm to
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lsu777
I see several mixed messages/concepts in your remarks:
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I have terrible cholesterol.
What do you mean by that? What is your tri/HDL ratio?
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like i said strictly from a health stand point strict paleo i.e. whole30 is the perfect diet.
Whole 30 doesn't allow dairy. I don't agree with that at all. Butter, cream and full fat cheese should be a part of any healthy diet. Also, the prohibition against things like cauliflower crust pizza are silly. Having said all that, if the average American just did Whole 30, that would solve like 80% of our problems.
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But most people can not stick to this style of diet for very long. That is the problem.
I've now put probably 3 dozen people on LCHF and basically all of them are having no problems keeping on it. There's nothing really to "stick" to - they are too satiated by the butter-topped steaks they're eating.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31031 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:40 pm to
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What do you mean by that? What is your tri/HDL ratio?


DOn't know at this moment but my HDL is usually pretty low. When I do whole30, I add in lots of fish oil, take in tons of grass fed to balance my omega3 vs omega 6.
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Whole 30 doesn't allow dairy. I don't agree with that at all. Butter, cream and full fat cheese should be a part of any healthy diet. Also, the prohibition against things like cauliflower crust pizza are silly. Having said all that, if the average American just did Whole 30, that would solve like 80% of our problems.


It only doesnt allow dairy for the first 30 days. and it does allow brown butter and ghee.

As far as the cauliflower crust pizza, the whole point of the diet is to break your addiction to things like that and to get back to simple. You can have cauliflower but some people on paleo take the whole almond flour to a whole new level.

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I've now put probably 3 dozen people on LCHF and basically all of them are having no problems keeping on it. There's nothing really to "stick" to - they are too satiated by the butter-topped steaks they're eating


and you can eat that on whole30 just have to use clarified butter (ghee or brown butter).

and yea plenty stick to the LCHF, but even on keto calories matter. If you eat a big steak with lots of butter, your daily cals are gone. Normal person is not going to only eat a steak some butter and a tad bit of cheese, sorry.

I am a low carb advocate but if you think the average american who is a slob will stick to lcHF long term, well....sorry you are wrong. Wish they would though.



Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:09 pm to
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As far as the cauliflower crust pizza, the whole point of the diet is to break your addiction to things like that and to get back to simple.
They sell premade cauliflower crusts now. Nothing much simpler than throwing some cheese and toppings on that and baking it up. Certainly no harder than the average hot preparation.
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but even on keto calories matter.
They don't matter that much for metabolic health.
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If you eat a big steak with lots of butter, your daily cals are gone
How's that?
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Normal person is not going to only eat a steak some butter and a tad bit of cheese, sorry.
Normal person is going to eat to satiety - which will be less cals this way than what they are used to.
Posted by Quinn225
Member since May 2017
408 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:55 am to
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Sure. And with my metabolism I'd look like an AIDS patient and wouldn't be able to bench my body weight.

That wouldn't be very healthy.



Eat a potato.
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