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Whatever........this is a "sicboy crapping on the Switch" thread, cuz reasons

Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:11 am
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:11 am
Polygon

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Teardown aficionado Jon Downey, who goes by Spawn Wave Media on YouTube, took apart both Joy-Con controllers in a video he posted yesterday. Aside from the known differences between the two units — the right Joy-Con has two extra internal components, an NFC chip and an infrared camera — Downey was expecting the controllers to be relatively similar inside. But he found that while the right Joy-Con included a dedicated, stand-alone antenna component for its Bluetooth radio, that particular piece doesn’t exist inside the left Joy-Con.

Downey did eventually find the Bluetooth antenna inside the left Joy-Con, but he discovered two issues with its design that likely contribute to the connectivity problems that players have been having. First, the antenna is printed directly on the controller’s circuit board; it’s not a separate unit inside the device. Second, the antenna is located beneath the controller’s shoulder button and next to the housing for the controller’s joystick. The housing takes the form of a sizable metal box protruding beyond the board, and because of the shoulder button placement, the area is usually covered by fingers. All of that could block or weaken the Bluetooth signal.

At that point, Downey decided to try a do-it-yourself fix for the issue: He would solder a copper wire to the antenna circuit and put the other end of the wire near the bottom of the controller. That would effectively make the antenna bigger, and would also extend it to an area that’s less likely to be obscured by a user’s hand.

“I don’t know if it’s going to work; I have no idea,” said Downey. “But I figure while I’m in here, I might as well take a shot, just to see.”

After tucking the wire beneath the Joy-Con’s battery compartment and putting the controller back together, Downey ran some calibration tests. It seems that he wasn’t having issues with his left Joy-Con before he tried to extend the antenna, but either way, the results turned out to be impressive.

Downey said both of his Joy-Con units initially worked well from a distance of 12 feet, unless he covered a controller with his hands or put it behind his back. Then he kept trying the Switch’s calibration tool from farther and farther away. At 20 feet from the Switch, which you can see at the 5:25 mark of the video above, Downey experienced serious issues with the right Joy-Con when he was covering the controller. But the left one — with its augmented antenna — was working swimmingly, even when covered.

From 30 feet away, the obscured right Joy-Con was essentially unresponsive when Downey was holding it behind his back. But in the same position, the left controller continued to operate normally for the most part. At 40 feet, neither unit worked reliably.

“Should you do it?” Downey began. “No, I wouldn’t do it. It was kind of [an] extreme case, just to fix the obvious issue.”

Indeed, you shouldn’t try this at home if you aren’t comfortable with taking apart and reassembling sensitive pieces of electronics. (And even then, maybe not!) But at the very least, Spawn Wave’s video seems to demonstrate that the way Nintendo engineered the left Joy-Con is the root cause of the connectivity problems that some players have been reporting.



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Yeah yeah, I hate nintendo. But kind of mystery solved on all the joycon issues. I wonder if they'll end up redesigning them down the road.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:38 am to
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It seems that he wasn’t having issues with his left Joy-Con before
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:44 am to
I think it's been established that not everyone was having the problems. Distance and whether or not you cover that bumper play factors. Size of hands.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:51 am to
I mean, not everyone got the RROD. Does not mean it wasn't a problem.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:01 am to
We only ever used them with Snipper Clips. Idk if I experienced but a few times it felt laggy, like intermittent disconnects. But chalked it up to me being tired. Haven't used the JoyCons since Day1 to confirm.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:21 am to
My left joycon had been going in and out but as soon as I pulled the Switch out a little from under my TV, it got considerably better. Still, going to buy new ones at some point.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:52 am to
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Yeah yeah, I hate nintendo

SHould make a thread about this if you want to draw more hate. LINK
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:54 am to
I've been at 15 ft and even 2 player horizontal...no problems
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:01 am to
2 minutes in. What the crap? I know it's not ever perfect, but those grips?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:08 am to
Might as well keep crapping on the Switch

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There’s no option to filter friends out based on name or online activity, and since friends are sorted by their nicknames, not their more unique Nintendo Account User IDs, you could end up with a mess of Mikes on your hands.

There’s almost no way to differentiate between who those Mikes actually are, either. Who can tell whether the Mike with a K.K. Slider icon is the one you know from work or the one you know from school? Did you just invite your casual acquaintance Mike into your inner circle, or your ex-boyfriend? Good luck trying to keep it all straight!

The avatar options are limited as well — no Toad? Really? Thankfully, friends can assign their personal Miis as their profile icons, which may help with telling who’s who. But it’s unlikely most people will go to those lengths; most people will likely choose either Mario or Link and be done with it. (I’ve already seen some repeats.)

Without those avatars, though, friends’ profiles would feel totally barren. We can’t write up bios, share birthdays, list favorite games or any of the other fun things that Nintendo allowed 3DS owners to register on their accounts.

We also can’t message our friends or communicate with them in any way. Those features are presumably left for the smartphone app, making the Switch’s friend list just that: a list of friends. A bland, barely useful list of nicknames and icons.

Maybe this is a petty complaint. Maybe the Switch’s simplicity is an intentional selling point — certainly there are some who appreciate it. But the friend list seems like it may have been better suited for the cutting room floor in its current state. It’s just bad design for no obvious reason; there isn’t a single upside to all the easily avoided downsides baked into the current interface and features list.



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Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:10 am to
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I've been at 15 ft and even 2 player horizontal...no problems


I am pretty sure if you were having a problem, you would justify it by saying it makes you enjoy the switch that much more when it is working.... or something.
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:13 am to
Something is wrong with that guys whole package. Pretty sure there are some defective dock as he struggles to get his switch inside the dock and I have no problems with mine
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:14 am to
wat
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:15 am to
Sic, what is this I hear about no way to back up save/game data?
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:18 am to
The dock. Nintendo took it off their store yesterday. You see how it looks like his dock is squeezing his switch? Mine doesnt do that. It has ample amounts of space
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:19 am to
LINK

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NINTENDO has confirmed a massive issue with its new Switch console that has left gamers furious — it is unable to transfer saved game data between systems.

Admittedly, at first this seems slightly unbelievable given the console has just launched in 2017, but Nintendo has confirmed the massive fault in a statement.

“At this time, it is not possible to transfer save data from one Nintendo Switch system to another,” Nintendo told Kotaku.

What this means is that if someone needs to get a replacement Switch console for any reason — think lost or broken device — all of their game data will be lost and they will have to start from scratch.

To make matters worse, Nintendo’s FAQ website added that game data is “stored on the console’s system memory” and “cannot be saved or copied to a microSD card”.


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What this means is if the console’s 32GB of internal memory fills up, the player will have to delete the countless hours of blood, sweat, and tears they poured into a game in order to play something else.

While this might not seem like a huge issue to non-gamers, imagine spending 40 hours working on a Word document you have to delete in order to start on something new.

It all seems like a very strange move from Nintendo, given its biggest competitors Xbox and PlayStation offer online cloud storage, and make it easy to physically swap content between systems.

Nintendo’s use of “at this time” suggest it cloud be working on a fix for this issue and we really hope this is the case.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:20 am to
Do you have a screen guard? Looks like people are getting their screens scratched really easily sliding it in and out of the dock.


just saw it
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 9:21 am
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:20 am to
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The dock. Nintendo took it off their store yesterday. You see how it looks like his dock is squeezing his switch? Mine doesnt do that. It has ample amounts of space


People are saying some of the docks they sold are defected. Bent when sold. Nintendo yanked them off their site.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:22 am to
I mean.............that's stuff that can easily be tested. The dock is a big component to this all-in-one device and they didn't know about the potential damage to people's screens?
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:26 am to
What a mess.

This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 9:29 am
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