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Posted on 4/30/17 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 1:24 pm to
Are you overclocking? If not, then no need for a 7700k.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 1:25 pm to
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Are you overclocking? If not, then no need for a 7700k.


Agreed
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:00 pm to
He's going with a z270 board so it'll fit the 7700k nicely.

I second stouts opinion too and go with a SFF PSU. You don't have to get one as nice as stouts, though
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:22 pm to
Worth noting that the 7700K has the highest multiplier, though, boosts to 4.5. Not a whole lot more $ (if any) to go from H to Z mobo and probably get it to 4.7 at a reasonable voltage/thermals. Those frickers do run hot though.

Stout, curious why you prefer SFX/SFX-L over ATX for SFF. I have zero experience with the SFX PSU form factor, so I'd by default pick an ATX unit when the case accommodates it (which apparently that Cooler Master does). I just don't really mess with SFF builds.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:38 pm to
It's an absolute pain in the arse to build with an ATX PSU in SFF.

Edit: especially with full size video cards
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:42 pm to
Updated on pc part picker

PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($228.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.38 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($374.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Silverstone 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1065.00
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:21 pm to
This 1070 is cheaper and more suitable for ITX builds

LINK

And I would recommend the Silverstone SG05 it case or the fractal node 305
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:28 pm to
Awesome. That fractal node 304 is sweet
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:43 pm to
If you get one of those cases then I would highly recommend getting that ITX 1070
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3182 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:47 pm to
Will do. I also just saw that the FD Core 500 is supposed to be the update to the node 304 so I'll probably go with that one.

Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:52 pm to
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Those frickers do run hot though.


How hot? The 7700k is essentially just a refresh of the 6700k with higher clock speed and better graphics right?

I have not paid much attention to the Kaby Lake CPUs other than the HT enabled Pentiums, so I don't know too much about the specifics other than a lot of people choose to delid them to improve the temps.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15498 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:08 pm to
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How hot? The 7700k is essentially just a refresh of the 6700k with higher clock speed and better graphics right?


Mine runs considerably hotter than a buddies 6700k when we both push them to 4.8 GHz. 20 deg C difference or more. Seems there are some decent chips that are sent out though, I wasn't one of the lucky ones.

It's actually pushed me from a closed loop to a custom loop. Waiting on a few parts to get here to start it.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:23 pm to
Wow. That's crazy to be that much of a temperature difference with relatively the same architecture.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:25 pm to
I assume you're delidding too before you throw in the custom loop?

My last fittings and CPU block are coming in on Tuesday from Amazon then I'll be all finished up with mine

Edit: I also moved from my 3770k to 3930k
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 8:26 pm
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:32 pm to
I am still rocking a 3770k in my office PC.

I am wondering at what point it will bottleneck if I keep upgrading my GPU. Currently have a 1080 in it and no issues.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:50 pm to
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Dam Guide


Your stuff should be redelivered Monday. I'm guessing the address you gave was a business address.

Even with a custom loop, my OCed and delidded 7700K will hit almost 80C under Prime load, Small FFTs. That was at 1.36v 5.1GHz. I have it at 1.28v 5.0GHz now, and it's in the 60s while gaming and around 70C in Prime95. Those temps are still so crazy for my loop that I reseated/repasted that thing three times to be totally sure.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:42 pm to
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I am wondering at what point it will bottleneck if I keep upgrading my GPU. Currently have a 1080 in it and no issues.


Not anytime soon
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15498 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 5:33 am to
quote:

I assume you're delidding too before you throw in the custom loop?


I did already, we are closer now and he isn't delidded. Can go either way who is hotter.

quote:

Your stuff should be redelivered Monday. I'm guessing the address you gave was a business address.


Yeah it's a business address. Appreciate it, can't wait, got a 750D to give myself room to grow.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 5:35 am
Posted by Raz
Member since Oct 2006
7559 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:30 am to
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ILikeLSUToo


Any advice on a graphics card for a work machine primarily for 3D modeling? Buddy was asking me but I had never even heard of the gpu he was looking at (nVidea quaddro m4000 8gb). Is that a better gpu for 3d modeling than what we're usually playing with here?

He's looking at $4-5000 for the rig and ~$1200 on that gpu.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15498 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:13 pm to
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Yeah it's a business address.


Sounds like it made it there, will pick it up on the way home. Then I get to start tinkering, yey!
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