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Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48945 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:00 pm to
Random question...

how much power does a hard drive/ssd usually require?

i have two drives (SSD and HD) but they are getting full. Thinking of filling an empty bay with another.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:07 pm to
Highest I've seen when they are going full tilt on SSDs is less than 5W. Probably more like 3 at full bore.

Likewise worst case in HDD would probably be below 10W.

Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Any advice on a graphics card for a work machine primarily for 3D modeling? Buddy was asking me but I had never even heard of the gpu he was looking at (nVidea quaddro m4000 8gb). Is that a better gpu for 3d modeling than what we're usually playing with here?

He's looking at $4-5000 for the rig and ~$1200 on that gpu.


When you say "primarily" for 3d modeling, does that suggest he might be wanting to use to it for gaming? If so, quadro cards are out. Even still, find out what software he's using and the complexity of the models he's rendering. Some software doesn't even use the GPU for rendering, so any expensive video card would be a waste.

In terms of architecture, the Quadro M4000 is a gimped GTX 970. Nowadays it's extremely unclear what tangible advantages a pro card offers over a gaming card, other than vendor "support" because the cards are "certified" for certain Autodesk/Adobe products. Also, they are undervolted/underclocked compared to their GTX counterpart, which means they'll run cooler and quieter (for those sustained rendering tasks taking hours/days on end). But if that were really an issue, underclocking/undervolting a beefier GTX card would accomplish the same. Used to be that you wanted a Quadro for supposedly better OpenGL performance, but I don't think Autodesk or Adobe use anything but DX now. And I'm pretty sure GTX cards have the same OpenGL support in their drivers now.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7217 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 6:55 pm to
I still want to buy a 980ti or 1070 if anyone is selling.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

I still want to buy a 980ti or 1070 if anyone is selling.

I have a 980 Ti for sale. $225
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:06 pm to
Why didn't you sell that to me??? Paid more for my 980
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7217 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:08 pm to
Sold. Gimme your email
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 7:09 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Why didn't you sell that to me??? Paid more for my 980

I told you I had it. Also posted once a month since buying my TITANs last September/October.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:15 pm to
Did you sell one? I thought you had sold both
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Sold. Gimme your email

lsucoyote@gmail.com
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7217 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:37 pm to
Sent
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:15 am to
Opened up my monsoon fittings last night, no wrench and missing 1 fitting. What the hell Amazon?
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 7:16 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:22 pm to
Fully stock bench

Max load temps:
GPU #1 - 35
GPU #2 - 32
CPU - 43

fricking awesome since I used to get 80+ for each card and upper 80s for the CPU
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:04 pm to
With an OC. For some reason I'm still falling 2,000 points short of ilikelsutoos bench

Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:21 pm to
Memory OCed? If you have it pretty far up there, try reducing a little.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:23 pm to
I did nothing to the memory, added 50 and then 100. 50 was the only successful run and got me the highest score.

My highest score was +60 core and +50 mem
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:58 am to
You should be able to get the memory to 1950Mhz. I don't remember how much + to add to reach that. +60 on core sounds high to me still, especially with power sliders and voltage sliders all the way to the right. When you increase power and voltage on its own, the core will boost to nearly 1500+MHz if I recall correctly (that's with the modded EVGA SC bios on it). So, you'd really only want to add about +35-45 or so. Past 1545-ish on core on both cards, stability was inconsistent. They'd get through a 3dmark run but wouldn't sustain an hour of certain games.

If memory is resisting an OC beyond +50, you might try OCing memory first, with the core slider at zero, then start adding core once you've found a stable memory OC. I'm pretty sure I found my best 3dmark score by prioritizing the memory overclock.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:57 pm to
Where I'm stopping for now. Going to try to break 22k this weekend
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:27 pm to
Nice! I stay out of the conversations between the masters, but I love reading them I learn stuff.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:43 pm to
Watercooling is one of the best upgrades for PC gamers. You can push your hardware between gens if needed, it lasts for years and it is quiet as shtt. Can't stand the sound of GPU fans. I will never understand ppl wasting money on dumb CPU upgrades and higher clock memory but still on air. Especially for gamers. Invest in your rig with worth wild upgrades.

The only real downfall are GPU blocks. Buying 2 new GPU blocks every 1 to 1.5yrs gets old.

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