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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:48 pm to tLSUtiger93
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:48 pm to tLSUtiger93
If you haven't already, remove the video card, the M.2 Drive, and one of the RAM modules. Connect the monitor to onboard video rather than the GPU, and try both RAM sticks individually in each of the first two slots. Gotta eliminate the variables.
Does your pump power on, or any part of the liquid cooler?
Does your pump power on, or any part of the liquid cooler?
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:50 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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Does your pump power on, or any part of the liquid cooler?
no, the lights come on when I turn on the surge protector, literally nothing else happens no matter what buttons I press
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:56 pm to tLSUtiger93
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, literally nothing else happens no matter what buttons I press
OH, so the lights are from the PSU being simply switched on.
Have you tried the white power button on the motherboard itself? Have you tried shorting your power switch connections? You simply take a piece of metal, like the tip of a screwdriver, and make it touch both of the power switch pins on the mobo.
Have you also verified that the power switch cable is plugged into the right header?
EDIT: And I have to ask... did you use standoffs to mount the motherboard?
This post was edited on 9/9/15 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:05 pm to ILikeLSUToo
the powerbutton on the mobo lights up, I can post a pic of that, yes I used standoffs, pressing both the case power button (which I plugged in to the mobo using the included guide) and the power button on the mobo do nothing.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:17 pm to tLSUtiger93
OK, obviously the motherboard is playing the biggest role here, but it's not necessarily defective. It just isn't getting the signal or isn't able to deliver power to other components. This can be caused by a bad PSU, improperly seated CPU, a short in the motherboard, or one or more loose power connections.. or a defective motherboard. It's always easier to have spare parts to swap out, but the next best thing is to remove all components and reassemble outside of the case.
I just sit the motherboard on top of its own anti-static bag, on top of the box it came in. I remove everything from the board, reseat the CPU, and then try to run it barebones. Just the CPU, cooler, and one stick of RAM, monitor connected to onboard video. Have you tried this? Running it barebones outside the case can often solve common problems in first-time builds.
If you don't have any luck with that method, I can stop by this week. All I have is a PSU to swap out, though. I don't have any DDR4 or Socket 1151 stuff. Where do you live?
I just sit the motherboard on top of its own anti-static bag, on top of the box it came in. I remove everything from the board, reseat the CPU, and then try to run it barebones. Just the CPU, cooler, and one stick of RAM, monitor connected to onboard video. Have you tried this? Running it barebones outside the case can often solve common problems in first-time builds.
If you don't have any luck with that method, I can stop by this week. All I have is a PSU to swap out, though. I don't have any DDR4 or Socket 1151 stuff. Where do you live?
This post was edited on 9/9/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:22 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Im about to try that after verifying the connections. The CPU power connections were a bitch for me to plug in (Its under the radiator) it legit took me 40 minutes to plug them in, so Im hesitant about undoing all of my work. I also may have not seated the cpu correctly, but am I fricked if that's the case? because doesn't that mean I bent the pins? Im apprehensive about disassembling my rig because it took me 2 whole days to put together. I feel like a retard.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:31 pm to tLSUtiger93
Probably would've been more ideal to add the cooler last. The CPU power connections might be loose if you had to do it blind.
I don't know. There's generally only one way to seat them and not immediately notice something is wrong. If you had to force it and mash it down with the CPU retention bracket, I imagine the pins would be bent.
If you'd rather someone else do it, let me know your availability and where in BR you live.
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I also may have not seated the cpu correctly, but am I fricked if that's the case?
I don't know. There's generally only one way to seat them and not immediately notice something is wrong. If you had to force it and mash it down with the CPU retention bracket, I imagine the pins would be bent.
If you'd rather someone else do it, let me know your availability and where in BR you live.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:44 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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I don't know. There's generally only one way to seat them and not immediately notice something is wrong. If you had to force it and mash it down with the CPU retention bracket, I imagine the pins would be bent.
I sat that CPU in the right way in that I lined up the sockets and it fit in fairly easily. Im gonna try the cpu power connections again but yeah im at the point where Im willing to pay someone else to do it. Email me at lsutiger93@gmail.com
Posted on 9/9/15 at 2:08 pm to tLSUtiger93
Is your motherboard sitting on the metal in the case? If it is, it needs to be on these small risers if your case didn't have them already attached.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 2:12 pm to oR33Do
He said he used the standoffs. I suspect/hope it's just something not plugged in all the way.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 2:25 pm to ILikeLSUToo
sorry the email is tlsutiger93@gmail.com
like I said I used the standoffs. I just resat the ram, made sure the gpu is plugged in, and made sure the cpu power cables were seated all the way, but still nothing
like I said I used the standoffs. I just resat the ram, made sure the gpu is plugged in, and made sure the cpu power cables were seated all the way, but still nothing
Posted on 9/9/15 at 6:49 pm to ILikeLSUToo
You have any thoughts on M.2 SSDs?
Posted on 9/9/15 at 7:23 pm to oR33Do
One thing to understand about M.2 is that it's a form factor rather than an interface. It uses PCIe as the interface (it can also use SATA mode if no PCIe lanes are available), and depending on gen and number of lanes, PCIe bandwidth of M.2 drives can range from as-good-as-SATA, slightly-but-not-noticeably-better-than-SATA, to a-good-bit-better-than-SATA (the PCIe x4 M.2 drives on boards that allocate PCIe 3.0 lanes). You obviously have to pay attention to the drive you choose as well as the platform you're putting it on. The Z170 chipset actually allocates PCIe 3.0 lanes to the M.2 slot, so it'll benefit the most from an appropriate M.2 drive. X99 and Z170 are the only two platforms I'd put an M.2 drive into.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 8:20 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I was watching a YouTube video of barnacules where he goes through a PC that was made for him. He has 2 of them in an Asus Z10-D8 mobo with dual xeon e5 CPUs.
Of course that is not practical for me, I think those 5 parts are like $4000.
I just thought it was funny and these newer z170 boards are supporting M.2. I figure if the prices for them get down to what SSDs are today I might be interested but $320 for a 512gb M.2 drive is a little ridiculous.
Amazon shipped my package today, it has been sitting in holding for almost a week now. Nothing too big yet, just one BenQ monitor, a key board and my headsets. All I have left to get is the guts, ie most expensive parts. I will most likely do that next week if I see a deal on the 4790k
Of course that is not practical for me, I think those 5 parts are like $4000.
I just thought it was funny and these newer z170 boards are supporting M.2. I figure if the prices for them get down to what SSDs are today I might be interested but $320 for a 512gb M.2 drive is a little ridiculous.
Amazon shipped my package today, it has been sitting in holding for almost a week now. Nothing too big yet, just one BenQ monitor, a key board and my headsets. All I have left to get is the guts, ie most expensive parts. I will most likely do that next week if I see a deal on the 4790k
Posted on 9/9/15 at 9:58 pm to oR33Do
For anyone interested, Nvidia runs a contest every couple of months. The winner gets an internship with Nvidia and a $5,000 system for free. In return you would have to stream for 3 hours on Sunday nights for 3 months.
Nvidia -The Rookie
Nvidia Twitch
Nvidia -The Rookie
Nvidia Twitch
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:05 pm to oR33Do
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You have any thoughts on M.2 SSDs?
I looked specifically at the Intel 750 as an NVMe solution, but the principles are generally going to be the same for most current and upcoming M.2 (or U.2, as some are called) drives - and this one looks to be a hybrid of consumer and commercial grade technology (although still a little pricey) - and it really shines over regular SATA 6gb/s with large files - with such a saturated memory bandwith, the drive is no longer the chokepoint for large file transfers through the bus.
Here is anandtech's review of the Intel 750 back in April that covers some of these issues.
LINK
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:13 pm to Ace Midnight
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it really shines over regular SATA 6gb/s with large files - with such a saturated memory bandwith, the drive is no longer the chokepoint for large file transfers through the bus.
Yeah, that's why I can't justify it. There's seldom a scenario where I'd really notice the performance of the 750 at its best. And besides large file transfers are always bottlenecked by the slowest drive, so you'd need two of them.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:48 am to ILikeLSUToo
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There's seldom a scenario where I'd really notice the performance of the 750 at its best.
That's my analysis, too. I was back to (Samsung) 850 (probably Pro over Evo at this point) just on price to performance basis.
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 8:49 am
Posted on 9/10/15 at 12:10 pm to Ace Midnight
I bought a Samsung 850 Evo off Amazon when they were $89.99 about a month ago. Last time I looked the pros were in the $140 range for a 250GB SSD.
It doesn't seem like the extra 10mb read speed seems worth it unless I have misunderstood that?
Oh and they're 89.99 again on amazon, they're normally about $100.
It doesn't seem like the extra 10mb read speed seems worth it unless I have misunderstood that?
Oh and they're 89.99 again on amazon, they're normally about $100.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 1:17 pm to oR33Do
As a Windows drive, you wouldn't notice a bit of difference between the Pro and Evo.
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