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re: PC decimating Consoles?

Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by sbr2
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:20 pm to
You guys created him in the PC thread, now deal with him
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:22 pm to
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seriously though, the master race title is a misnomer. It's really the "casual" race, because the majority of PC gamers are playing on systems that can't max out games at 1080p. they play the sims, hearthstone, lol, Dota, etc. ask them to play watch dogs or arma 3 at 1080p, max settings at 60 fps or higher and their pcs would implode


With the help of people on here I guess I am in the minority of gamers then.

Posted by demosa
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:29 pm to
you're in the minority of PC gamers. same with me.

when you step out of the hivemind bubble, you realize just how many people play pc games on $600 laptops and pre built desktops from dell and hp.

the situation is like a few guys who are on a club flag football team, but train like they are in the nfl. Yeah, they'll be better than everyone else, but most people playing club ball are just doing it for fun and don't take it too seriously.

Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:31 pm to
nice cable management
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:32 pm to
You're such an arse
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:36 pm to
Whatevs
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:37 pm to
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nice cable management


Too much work to fix.
Posted by illuminatic
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:41 pm to
I would open up my PS4 and take a picture of it but I wouldn't be able to put it back to together.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:21 pm to
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you're in the minority of PC gamers. same with me.

when you step out of the hivemind bubble, you realize just how many people play pc games on $600 laptops and pre built desktops from dell and hp.

the situation is like a few guys who are on a club flag football team, but train like they are in the nfl. Yeah, they'll be better than everyone else, but most people playing club ball are just doing it for fun and don't take it too seriously.


This is true, but I'm not sure what your definition of "in the minority" is. If you include everything that encompasses PC gaming, you aren't only including the Dell users playing minecraft and the Sims, but also the housewives playing farmville, and the millions upon millions of us who play candy crush, words with friends, clash of clans, plants v zombies, etc. etc. etc. on our smartphones and tablets. These are considered personal computers. Including "PC" gaming across all platforms, we are definitely in the minority.

However, if you look at strictly the market for traditional PC hardware, there are more performance/enthusiast oriented folks than you think. Not every "performance" PC person does custom builds. Mine, for example, is extremely niche because it delves into even narrower markets (custom water cooling, super-tower cases, etc.).



But there's still a big market for gaming laptops and desktops off the shelf, not to mention the folks who just throw a mid-range GPU that can live on a 400W PSU into their Dell.

Some research firm published an interesting report a couple weeks ago about PC gaming hardware revenue and the types of consumers:



PC Gaming Market Holds Lead Over Consoles
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Futures Bleak
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:25 pm to
First of all, Pokemon isn't a console exclusive, neither is Zelda, and Mario Kart. Handhelds aren't consoles. I can't believe I had to correct you and the console dudes on that

Hell, you can even play pokemon on PC

So much fail in this thread from console peasants
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:30 pm to
I don't have it nor do I feel like looking for it but Valve released numbers at one point about their hardware surveys on Steam and enthusiasts were definitely in the minority.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:40 pm to
My cable management...

This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted by demosa
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:57 pm to
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First of all, Pokemon isn't a console exclusive, neither is Zelda, and Mario Kart. Handhelds aren't consoles.


did you actually just type these words?

nothing wrong with PC gaming, it's the elitist attitude the hivemind sports that's foolish

you aren't a "master race" when your platform misses out on so many AAA games and franchises. you aren't a "master race" when developers admit they don't spend a lot of time optimizing their games for your platform. you aren't a "master race" when the majority of your "race" is playing the sims and world of warcraft on their Asus laptops with AMD apus. you aren't a "master race" when less than 5% of your "race" can actually run most games at max settings at 1440p without dropping well below 60 fps. In fact, most of them are playing at 720p or less.

pc games are great, but the "master race" meme is old, inaccurate, and really pretty foolish



This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted by demosa
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:16 pm to
many pc gamers don't use steam, although most pc gaming enthusiasts would probably say they do. so let's go over some data for the "master race".

almost half of all steam users play at 720p or less.

over half of those users have just 1 gb of VRAM or less.

over half have just 2 physical CPU cores or less

about half have just 4 gb of system ram or less

3 of the top 5 gpus are integrated graphics, with the dedicated cards in the top 5 being the 660 and 760, neither of which is going to max out PC games at 1080p and 60 fps.


and remember, this is just steam data. doesn't even account for all the casuals playing Wow, lol, sims, etc that don't even know what steam is


This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:36 pm to
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660 and 760, neither of which is going to max out PC games at 1080p and 60 fps.


Both of those (especially the 760) max out almost every game at 1080p with 60fps
Posted by Futures Bleak
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:37 pm to
First of all, learn how to quote right.

Second, you do know PC has more "exclusives" than console right?

Third, let's see some linkage to your claims.

And most GPUs cant go over 60 fps with 1440p, max settings

Idiot
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 5:40 pm
Posted by demosa
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:48 pm to
LINK

doesn't even include games like watchdogs or arma 3, which would laugh at a 760 trying to do 1080/60 Fps
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:55 pm to
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watchdogs



You need to throw that game out of your argument, the coding was so bad that almost nobody on any system could get it stable and smooth at 60 fps.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 5:56 pm
Posted by Futures Bleak
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:56 pm to
Not what I was asking for. I want links to this

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almost half of all steam users play at 720p or less. over half of those users have just 1 gb of VRAM or less. over half have just 2 physical CPU cores or less about half have just 4 gb of system ram or less
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