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re: Microsoft to boost Xbox One GPU performance by making Kinect optional

Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Cs
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:37 am to
I'm just surprised that Microsoft opted for a comparatively underpowered GPU architecture when they knew that 10% of its resources would be locked from game developers...
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65803 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:38 am to
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Ask Xbone users their thoughts on it and you will get 99% positive reviews of the Kinect.



That's not what I was calling bullshite.

The PS4 doesn't require the Camera to use voice controls, you can use any working mic/headset.

I'm sure Microsoft could easily patch that in and then offer a bundle without Kinect for a lower price.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:41 am to
Don't pull a Paul Walker in your 350z
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:41 am to
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The PS4 doesn't require the Camera to use voice controls, you can use any working mic/headset.



No IR blaster, so no "Xbox watch Comedy Central"
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72065 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:41 am to
I understand the inherent benefits of the kinect system overall, but limiting developers by requiring 10% of GPU be allocated for this tech is a problem.

I do think kinect tech has potential, but we are nowhere near where we need to be, and until we get there, I disagree with the idea of mandating the techs use.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29157 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:42 am to
He's already started the skid. Price drop, more power, optional kinect making him look foolish
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:42 am to
It's winter, I don't drive it. And there's a track 15 minutes from me where we all go when we want to have fun like that.

Thanks for your concern though. RIP PW.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:44 am to
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but limiting developers by requiring 10% of GPU be allocated for this tech is a problem.


I think Microsoft is big fans of having a lot of control. Reminds of their like 2 week certification process required for game updates instead of just letting the debs update it immediately.

I think they realized they fricked up and want to improve things.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65803 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:46 am to
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but limiting developers by requiring 10% of GPU be allocated for this tech is a problem.


Yup, and here we are just a few months into this gen and you're seeing damn near every major game running at either lower resolution or lower frames per second than the PS4 because of that lack of power.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10842 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:58 am to
So they are making Kinect optional which basically means 99% of developers will ignore it. Also why even do this, one console had to be less powerful. The One is never going to the most powerful console this generation, this will just lessen the gap. Microsoft at this point should just take Kinect out and charge $400 for the One.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65803 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:59 am to
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Microsoft at this point should just take Kinect out and charge $400 for the One.


Yes, they should.

And I think it's inevitable that they will sooner than later.
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3968 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:01 pm to
What's up with all this frame rate resolution crap does it even matter. Can the average person even recognize it. Shite is my monitor even capable of 1080( Samsung syncmaster b2330) I have played a bunch of games on the one ( ryse, forza, BF4, AC4, FIFA, halo SA, Dead rising,killer instinct) and I haven't had a single problem with the way the game looks even Halo and that was made for phones. And even if they looked slightly better it doesn't make the game any better than what the game is.
so is resolution and frame rate something PS4 people use to make themselves feel better about there decision? Or does it actually make a game better and if it does pls explain
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12236 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:01 pm to
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World wide? I don't think so

Not anywhere as of the latest numbers. It outsold the PS4 by about 30,000 units in NA during December, but is still behind in total units.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25239 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:03 pm to
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The PS4 doesn't require the Camera to use voice controls, you can use any working mic/headset.

Which is pointless. If you're already wearing your headset, you've already got a controller in your hand. I know you're not a fan of the media features, but they're a huge plus and being forced to wear a headset to use them just wouldn't work.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65803 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:05 pm to
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What's up with all this frame rate resolution crap does it even matter. Can the average person even recognize it.


Yes, 30 FPS and 60 FPS is a large difference.

Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29157 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:05 pm to
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It outsold the PS4 by about 30,000 units in NA during December
boom it's happening
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10842 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:06 pm to
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What's up with all this frame rate resolution crap does it even matter.

Yes it most certainly does, just look at the comparison of the PS4 and Xbone versions of Tomb Raider.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10842 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:07 pm to
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boom it's happening

And yet the Xbone is still behind... in every country.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:07 pm to
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So they are making Kinect optional which basically means 99% of developers will ignore it.


It is already optional, Titanfall isn't using the kinect for anything. This was news way before this was ever announced.
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