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Why is tomato. based "gumbo" so prevalent outside of Louisiana? ??

Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:09 am
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:09 am
I have never been able to figure this out. You will never find a dark roux based brown gumbo on a menu or cooked by a home chef unless it is from a La native. I understand that most people from outside the state view our food based on what they have had in New Orleans. I have never ordered gumbo in New Orleans. How common is a tomato based gumbo in New Orleans? Is a tomato based gumbo just more appealing to the masses? Help me understand.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90511 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:13 am to
Had a non tomato gumbo in Mobile a few weeks ago. Was pretty good and dark.

Wintzels or something on Dauphin.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:21 am to
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How common is a tomato based gumbo in New Orleans?


It's the second biggest problem in New Orleans after Confederate monuments.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24395 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:43 am to
It's simple. Creoles put tomatoes in everything. New Orleans has a deep Creole history. Therefore you get tomatoes in your jambalaya and gumbo sometimes. Deal with it.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21247 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:50 am to
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Therefore you get tomatoes in your jambalaya and gumbo sometimes. Deal with it.


Creole. Not Cajun. So when alot of places out of state advertise "Cajun gumbo", it's really not.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24395 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:55 am to
Who gives a shite what someone in Kentucky calls gumbo? People that get their panties in a wad over tomatoes in these dishes are as bad as the damn beer snobs.
Posted by Geaux8686
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 12:07 pm to
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t's the second biggest problem in New Orleans after Confederate monuments.




Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21924 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 12:45 pm to
I never get Jambalaya or gumbo at a restaurant in NOLA.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7855 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:31 pm to
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It's the second biggest problem in New Orleans after Confederate monuments.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:32 pm to
Because they're idiots
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38279 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:35 pm to
The term creole is on a very large continuum. What makes someone a Creole?

I thought, was having a blood line of either French or Spanish ancestry from Europe.

But it came about with mixed races of African, Spanish, and French.

Anyway, I thought the Italians put tomatoes in their gumbo. Haha
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:44 pm to
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Who gives a shite what someone in Kentucky calls gumbo?


Hmmm, I didn't see any poster from Ky but I've had gumbo in Lexington. It was white. It had no tomatoes. They simply don't make a roux. It was horrible.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 3:16 pm to
I've found that most folks outside of Louisiana really don't make too many things with a roux. Most don't know how or don't want to take the time to make sure it doesn't burn.

New Orleans is where most visitors come and eat and most restaurants serve "Creole" gumbo...hence the tomatoes.

As long as it's good, I don't care if it's creole or Cajun.
This post was edited on 8/15/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63511 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 3:22 pm to
Actually, there are plenty of restaurants in NO that do not have tommy-toes in their gumbo. Some do, however, and, yeah, it's a Creole thang.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:18 pm to
It seems like most Gumbos that homecooks make outside of La are just a tomato and okra soup with some seafood. Is this common in New Orleans as well?
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:26 pm to
The only tomato "based" gumbo I have ever had in New Orleans is Liuzza's. I have had many with tomatoes in the gumbo, but they are still using okra and/or filé as the thickening agent.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:26 pm to
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outside of La are just a tomato and okra soup with some seafood.
Welcome to Piccadilly. This is what they serve for gumbo.

As per tomatoes in Gumbo, stupid is as stupid does.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70038 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:38 pm to
What is considered tomato based? I have had great seafood gumbo with some tomato in it but it was still a dark brown roux with mostly an okra base.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:39 pm to
Who makes gumbo, outside of yáll?

If it´s outside of LA, it´s either

1. LA themed restaurant
2. A novelty


Correct?
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50122 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:52 pm to
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