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Smoking a brisket... what do you use for a rub?

Posted on 12/20/16 at 6:36 am
Posted by notbilly
alter
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 6:36 am
I used a rub recipe i found online for the last brisket i smoked. It was a bit much. The brisket was great but the bark was too spicy. The recipe called for cayenne pepper, chili powder, etc. I'm not good enough to smoke with only salt and pepper like Franklin does it. Im looking for something kind of simple. Any suggestions?
Posted by tiger rag 93
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 6:47 am to
Start with salt and pepper and then add little tweaks if you're looking for a bit more flavor. Granulated garlic, Granulated Onion, paprika among others.

Franklin uses a base of S&P with those three other ingredients for his non-brisket rub but I bet it would work well on a brisket if you want a little more umph.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50128 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 7:09 am to
3 T Tony's, 2 T black pepper, 1 T dry mustard, 2 cups dark brown sugar. Enough for a 12-15 pound brisket.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29533 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 7:12 am to
1/2 cup Kosher sat
1/2 cup paprika
1/4 cup chili powder
2 tbsp. cumin seeds, ground
2 tbsp. turbinado sugar
2 tbsp. freshly ground black pepper
1 tbsp. freshly ground white pepper
1 tbsp. garlic powder
1 tbsp. onion powder
1 tbsp. chipotle powder
1/2 tbsp. hickory powder (optional)
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18770 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 8:40 am to
I used to use a beef rub recipe from Amazing Ribs, then I started tinkering with it, and it was always fine.

Then I decided to try just Kosher salt and fresh cracked pepper. Was skeptical, but it turned out great. That's all I have used the last few times.

Here is the Amazing Ribs recipe I used to use.

Big Bad Beef Rub

Makes. About half a cup

Ingredients
3 tablespoon coarsely ground black pepper
2 tablespoons table salt
2 teaspoons chili or ancho powder
1 tablespoon granulated white sugar
1 tablespoon onion powder
1 teaspoon cayenne or chipotle powder
2 teaspoons mustard powder
2 teaspoons garlic powder
Posted by Stexas
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 8:54 am to
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 8:57 am to
quote:

I used a rub recipe i found online for the last brisket i smoked. It was a bit much. The brisket was great but the bark was too spicy. The recipe called for cayenne pepper, chili powder, etc. I'm not good enough to smoke with only salt and pepper like Franklin does it. Im looking for something kind of simple. Any suggestions?



I have used the below for simplicity sake when away from home and had very good results, available most places including Academy.

Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3133 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:01 am to
Im a fan of Dizzy Pig Cow Lick but really salt, pepper and garlic powder are hard to beat in beef.

If your fairly new to brisket, this is a great thread:

LINK
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45774 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:31 am to
The injection is as important as the rub. Also, when you inject, always inject WITH the grain, not against it. If you inject against the grain it leaves pockets in the briskets. The flavor doesn't permeate and it can leave dark spots.

For the injection:

1 quart water
3 beef bouillon cubes powdered
1 15-ounce can strong beef broth

For the rub:

1/2 cup kosher salt
2 tablespoons coarsely ground black pepper
1 teaspoon sugar
1/2 teaspoon Chipotle pepper powder
1/2 teaspoon Chile powder
1 teaspoon garlic powder
1 teaspoon granulated dried onion

Mix well, coat, and allow to sit in fridge for two hours before setting out for two hours to come to room temp before placing on smoker.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45774 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:32 am to


The key to Rudy's and to my brisket is to always cook using Oak, not Hickory or Mesquite.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24358 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:36 am to
salt
pepper
granulated garlic
smoked paprika
sweet paprika


I've also done it with just salt and pepper a lot of times
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57443 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:19 pm to
you really inject your brisket?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27419 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:43 pm to
Yes.
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
4872 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I'm not good enough to smoke with only salt and pepper


yes you are. In fact, I'd say use this until you get your technique down then add other flavors.

I use Salt and Pepper and a little garlic powder.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4527 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

yes you are. In fact, I'd say use this until you get your technique down then add other flavors.

I use Salt and Pepper and a little garlic powder.



Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14201 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:32 pm to
Coat exterior with yellow mustard and then lightly dust with garlic, salt and make it nearly black with black pepper. Cook it fat side up most of the way.

I like oak for cooking heat and smoke. Keep eat below 250 and the meat away from the fire.

I do a rub from time to time, but honestly, nothing else other then what is here is needed.

Most of us make brisket way too hard.

Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3011 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 11:22 pm to
If the quality of your brisket is good then kosher salt and course black pepper is all you need. My dad is from Texas and that's pretty much all they use over there. No reason to over complicate smoking a brisket. They don't even fool with injecting the things. But once again in my mind the quality of brisket makes all the difference in good brisket and exceptional brisket. That and not overcooking the thing. I'm convinced if a person can smoke an exceptional brisket then they can pretty much smoke any cut of meat good. I agree with MeridianDog that oak taste the best. Hickory is a little too strong on the smoke for me. That Texas post oak is the best for brisket.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 11:29 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81642 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:58 am to
I add salt to Emeril's Essence,

Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4527 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:53 am to
quote:

If the quality of your brisket is good then kosher salt and course black pepper is all you need.


The brisket I'm cooking tonight is a USDA Prime packer from costco. It's hard to beat at $2.99/lb. The brisket is about 16.75lbs now before I trim it.

The trick is for me to plan out the cook time correctly. My last brisket was a USDA Choice packer I bought from a grocery store. It was already trimmed but cost like $6/lb. I think it was 11 or 12 lbs when I bought it. I trimmed a little more off and it took about 17 hours to cook it. It was my first brisket on my Big Green Egg so I had some trouble regulating the temp. I was trying to cook around 215 to 220. It dropped below 200 several times through the night and stalled for a LONG time before I said screw it and wrapped it while bumping up the temp to about 230-240. It still came out better than any brisket I've cooked before.

This time I'm armed with an PitmasterIQ so I should be able to keep a steady temp. (fingers crossed). I think I am going to throw it on 18 hours before everyone shows up at the house and cook around 225.
Posted by IlikeyouBetty
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2010
1252 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Smoking a brisket


Sounds like you have the most important part down, which is getting a good cut of meat. I usually use Certified Angus Beef, but prime even better. Simple tips to a good brisket smoke.

1. Trim your brisket very well. Trim all fat and silver skin off flat side. Trim fat cap to 1/4" and cut out a good bit of the deckle( fat layer between flat and point) too much fat, and it won't render.

2. Best rub for me is kosher salt and coarse black pepper 50/50. Spritz brisket with apple juice then shake on rub generously and evenly. Let meat sit out while you get your fire going.

3. I smoke at 250-275 with hickory, but go with your personal preference of temp and wood. More than one right answer here. Put some water in your drip pan and don't let it run out. Make sure you use a digital thermometer to monitor pit temp. Those things on the lid are off and are too far above cooking surface for accuracy.

4. I smoke until I get a good bark (4-5 hours spritzing with apple juice after 2 hours, then every 45 minutes thereafter). Pull and wrap tightly in foil, adding 1 cup of warm beef broth inside wrap. Put it back on smoker or just toss it in the oven. If you want to finish faster, crank up the temp. Cook until a thermometer eases through the meat with almost no resistance (usually will be around or just over 200 degrees internal). I just poke through the foil wrap so I don't have to continually unwrap and rewrap. Use a good digital thermometer(thermapen or the like).

5. Pull it, unwrap, and let it vent for 10 minutes. After 10 minutes, rewrap and put it in a cooler or back in oven at 200 (this is only if you are going to eat at a later time, briskets are rarely done right when you need them, best to start early). If you are eating right away, don't rewrap and let rest for 30 minutes before slicing. If you rewrap, be sure to let it rest 20 minutes when you finally do unwrap, before slicing. Resting is very important, do not forget this or you will have dry brisket. Enjoy!

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