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re: Review - Mellow Mushroom Oak Street

Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:22 am to
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:22 am to
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I've never heard this. I try to never comment on things that I can't speak factually about. I'm not saying it isn't true. Just that I've never heard that, so I can't comment on it.


If you're an Oak St shopper, go to the comic book store and ask the owner about Yelp's attempted ad extortion...or go to Blue Cypress books and ask Elizabeth. Either one will tell you all about their direct experiences. Multiple lawsuits, more than 700 complaints to the Federal Trade Commission....it's not fiction. Educate yourself and consider whether you want to freely contribute to a grossly unfair business model and questionable practices.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:23 am to
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I'm part owner of a restaurant and have also run a pop-up. Food mark up is quite high with many items. I don't know if I'd say pizza is number 1.

If I had to say...I'd go with cheese fries!


I know at the big national chains a pizza chains it costs them about $2 to make a pizza. When you're charging $20.. that's a massive profit margin.

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Add ons are a biggie too. I ripped into Mondo for that one. To add mushrooms, cheese and bacon to a burger that is already $12? $7!!!! So a burger with mushrooms, bacon and cheese with some fries is $19 at Mondo!!!


That's utterly ridiculous. The rise of the expensive burger is nuts .. people are shelling out $12-$15 on a consistent basis now for burgers, and most of the time they are awful! Looking at you Charcoal's.



Posted by nikinik
Mid City
Member since Jan 2009
5733 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:25 am to
I'm fine with $12 for a burger and fries (with toppings), if the burger is amazing. But $19. Oh hell no.

I feel much better paying $12 for big arse burger (topped with boudin and cheese) and hand cut fries than I am paying $12 for a hot dog and some frozen fries and a drink (Dat Dog).
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84094 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:26 am to
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I know at the big national chains a pizza chains it costs them about $2 to make a pizza.


Big national chains don't have the kind of overhead that a place like Mellow will. Their buildings are much smaller, kitchen not as well equipped, and less people working.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:31 am to
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If you're an Oak St shopper, go to the comic book store and ask the owner about Yelp's attempted ad extortion...or go to Blue Cypress books and ask Elizabeth. Either one will tell you all about their direct experiences. Multiple lawsuits, more than 700 complaints to the Federal Trade Commission....it's not fiction. Educate yourself and consider whether you want to freely contribute to a grossly unfair business model and questionable practices.



Sounds like a way to quickly completely destroy your business model (Yelp's that is) when word of this starts to get around.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:32 am to
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I'm fine with $12 for a burger and fries (with toppings), if the burger is amazing.


Agreed .. that's about my limit and it better be good. High Hat is a perfect example. They make the best burger in the city IMO and it comes dressed and with fries, which are also great, and it's $12.

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I feel much better paying $12 for big arse burger (topped with boudin and cheese) and hand cut fries than I am paying $12 for a hot dog and some frozen fries and a drink (Dat Dog).


I haven't been to Dat Dog in forever (3 years maybe?) but don't remember it being that high. Yikes.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:34 am to
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If you're an Oak St shopper, go to the comic book store and ask the owner about Yelp's attempted ad extortion...or go to Blue Cypress books and ask Elizabeth. Either one will tell you all about their direct experiences. Multiple lawsuits, more than 700 complaints to the Federal Trade Commission....it's not fiction. Educate yourself and consider whether you want to freely contribute to a grossly unfair business model and questionable practices.


Have never heard anything like this. You would think it would have gotten circulated around to where more people know about it by now. Shame on Yelp if true. I mean I've seen some "reviews" that were very obviously either written by the owner or friends of the owner, i.e. - stellar 5 star reviews of places that everyone else says is shite. But never heard of Yelp employees or "team members" directly trying to extort businesses.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 9:35 am
Posted by nikinik
Mid City
Member since Jan 2009
5733 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:37 am to
When they raised their prices by 35% (when they opened the new spot across the street), I never went back.

I liked Hi Hat's burger a lot and definitely felt it to be worth the $12. I wouldn't call it the best burger in the city, but definitely 2nd or 3rd.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 9:41 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:11 am to
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Big national chains don't have the kind of overhead that a place like Mellow will


MM may not be a big national chain but they have over 100 locations in at least 10 states. They are not a mom and pop place.

I don't mind a chain review, but.....
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:14 am to
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I mean I've seen some "reviews" that were very obviously either written by the owner or friends of the owner, i.e. - stellar 5 star reviews of places that everyone else says is shite.

They're always so obvious. You'd think the owners would at least be discrete with their chicanery.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84094 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:15 am to
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MM may not be a big national chain but they have over 100 locations in at least 10 states. They are not a mom and pop place.


That had nothing to do with the point of my post, but OK. I wasn't claiming they weren't a chain, just that they have much higher overhead cost than a Dominos type place.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:18 am to
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Have never heard anything like this. You would think it would have gotten circulated around to where more people know about it by now.

In the small business community, it's widely known. Yelp hides behind the claim that the reviews aren't manipulated, but I personally know businesses who've been solicited with the offer to boost ratings and/or remove negative reviews. A quick Google search will show you it's far from an isolated practice.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:21 am to
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In the small business community, it's widely known

This I don't doubt.

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quick Google search will show you it's far from an isolated practice

Funny thing is, Google has a somewhat similar practice of boosting Google matches.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:22 am to
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That had nothing to do with the point of my post, but OK. I wasn't claiming they weren't a chain, just that they have much higher overhead cost than a Dominos type place.


OK. I was just pointing out for others that they are a big chain even if they are not big like Dominos.

My point being that reviews of large chains are usually frowned upon here. And they are large.

On another note, how do you know they have higher overhead? At what size does a chain become big enough to have the same economies?

Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:27 am to
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On another note, how do you know they have higher overhead? At what size does a chain become big enough to have the same economies?

Do you believe that a company with 1000's of stores buys with the same purchasing power as one with 100 or so?

Also, I'm unaware of any eat in Domino's. MM has to hire servers, restaurants with much more space. The business models are completely different.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69078 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:28 am to
I like Mellow Mushroom as well. Not the best but far from the worst.

"traditional" means Naples style pizza. Wood oven, simple crust, light toppings, fresh cheese.

Like Ancora.

I prefer New York style, I really like Grimaldi's in Brooklyn, as for here I heard Brooklyn Pizzeria is close but not the same. I did hear a coal fired pizza place was looking to open.

MM is good for what it is, though I haven't been to any of the local ones.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84094 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:30 am to
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On another note, how do you know they have higher overhead?


Much bigger size building, more staff, kitchen has to be equipped to prepare more varieties of items, carrying a liquor license, etc. I'd think it's common sense.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:30 am to
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Also, I'm unaware of any eat in Domino's. MM has to hire servers, restaurants with much more space. The business models are completely different.



Well then why was the comparison made in the first place.

My only point is that we are reviewing a large chain restaurant.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84094 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:30 am to
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Do you believe that a company with 1000's of stores buys with the same purchasing power as one with 100 or so?

Also, I'm unaware of any eat in Domino's. MM has to hire servers, restaurants with much more space. The business models are completely different.



Like I said, this you would think would be common sense.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84094 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:31 am to
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Well then why was the comparison made in the first place.


R2R is the one that made it, ask him.
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