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re: No oil gumbo

Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:54 am to
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Go.


pretty simple and straight forward. if you want to make it easier on yourself you can de-bone a roasted chicken from rouses.

Chicken File' Gumbo

Ingredients
1 1/2 lb. Thin-cut Chicken Breast
1 1/2 lb. Boneless Chicken Thigh
Olive Oil
Salt and Pepper
2 Medium-large Onions, chopped
2 Medium Bell Peppers, chopped
1 Bunch Short-Stalk Celery, halved and chopped
12 Cups Chicken Stock
1/2 Bunch Parsley, chopped
File’, to taste
Seasoning of Choice

*do not use a bare cast iron pot for this type of gumbo

Directions
Preheat oven to 415º. Lightly coat chicken with olive oil and sprinkle with salt and pepper. Lay out on a flat oven pan and cook until done, but still moist, about 20-25 minutes. Remove chicken, cool, and pull apart into medium-size pieces with two forks. Set Aside.

In a 5 1/2 qt. enameled dutch oven or magnalite, bring a small amount of oil to medium and brown onions for 15-20 minutes. After onions are soft and browned (but not burnt), add just enough water to cover the onions. Lower the fire to simmer and smother for 1 hour, adding small amounts of water periodically as needed.

After one hour of smother, add bell peppers, parsley and celery and simmer for another 20-30 minutes, or until all vegetables are soft. Add the chicken stock and bring back to a simmer for 30 minutes. Halfway through, add the chicken meat to the pot.

Season the gumbo to taste, using:
-either your favorite all purpose creole seasoning, or black pepper/kosher salt/cayenne
-file’ powder. This is a file' gumbo, so remember this is a key component (just don't go overboard)

Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27820 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:34 pm to
I like it. How could I make it darker and/or thicker?

I wonder if a gravy thickener would work?
Posted by HotMama79
Member since Sep 2012
288 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:34 pm to
I've been making gumbo with oil-less roux for years - got the recipe from a Holly Clegg cookbook. Oven at 350, about a cup of flour on a cookie sheet. Bake for about 15 minutes, then stir four around, bake in 10-15 minute increments - stirring flour around the cookie sheet. I saute the onions, etc. in a small amount of olive oil - then add browned flour in small amounts. Also then start adding chicken stock slowly and stir really good. The rest of the recipe is no different than a regular gumbo. I get TONS of compliments and family always requests gumbo around the holidays.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21954 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:36 pm to
My Buddy (from Chauvin) was a cook on a rig and sometimes he makes his gumbo that way sometimes. No roux at all. He chops a 5lb bag of onions to make it. Cooks them down to nothing.
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

I like it. How could I make it darker and/or thicker?

I wonder if a gravy thickener would work?


this type of gumbo is not supposed to be thick. file' gumbos are more watery....however the file' will thicken it a bit. if anyone asks why its not thick just tell them that's how file' gumbo is. as far as the color, the finished product should be a dark greenish-brown. if you need to have a darker color, add some kitchen boquet while your onions are smothering.

on a side note. the gumbo should have it's file' flavor before it's served to anyone. in other words you shouldnt have to put out extra file' on the table. just be careful not to overdo it.

Also, if you substitute the chicken for 150 ct shrimp and some pre-smothered okra.....voila, you've got shrimp and okra file' gumbo. in which case you can sub the chicken stock for some good home made shrimp head stock, but its not necessary.

quote:

My Buddy (from Chauvin) was a cook on a rig and sometimes he makes his gumbo that way sometimes. No roux at all. He chops a 5lb bag of onions to make it. Cooks them down to nothing.


yep....this is the primary way gumbo is cooked in chauvin. we only made a roux if we were making a chicken stew or whatever.
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Meat Newtons
Bon Secour Al
Member since Nov 2015
426 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:44 pm to
My grandmother was Creole/Acadian. She made her Roux with no oil. She taught my Mother & my Mother taught my Wife this method. Best that I ever had. It's labor intensive though. Cast iron skillet on medium heat. Constant stirring for about 45 minutes.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112617 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:48 pm to
Before leaving out oil I'd drop the sausage and make a chicken or turkey leftovers gumbo.. and remove the skin from the chicken. It's really not that much fat per serving.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
9575 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 6:48 pm to
Thanks, I added it to the recipe thread.
Posted by BooDreaux
Orlandeaux
Member since Sep 2011
3300 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 7:01 pm to
Sorry Dallastiger I just got back here

all i do is use those aluminum full sized pans........put some foil in bottom

put 4 cups of flour in it......place in 375 degree oven and every 15 minutes or so stir it up and when it gets to the color you want take it out

I've never tried getting to a really really dark color.....usually just to a dark brown.....turn it all over when you stir.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27820 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:00 pm to
Man, you guys rock. Did the roasted flour only roux in the oven and damn it was a huge hit


My wife said this was her favorite gumbo I've ever made. We didn't notice one drop off from no oil, believe it or not it was even more flavorful. Crazy I don't know why but I'll never go back


So good. Thanks again guys
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 9:16 pm
Posted by HotMama79
Member since Sep 2012
288 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:06 pm to
Glad it turned out so good - it's the only way I make gumbo.
Posted by jeepfreak
Back in the BR
Member since Oct 2003
19433 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 12:32 am to
Glad it turned out for you. I've been using the dry roux for years. I stopped making my own and just started buying it in a jar...it stinks my kitchen up too much. I whisk it into hot water in a red solo cup to make a slurry and add it to my stock. You can make the gumbo darker by browning the meat/veggies more before pouring in the stock.

ETA: If you buy it, look for one with little or no salt. If it has salt in it, don't add salt to your gumbo until it's almost done and you tasted it.
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 12:34 am
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