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re: New Budweiser Products based on Different Zip Codes
Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:49 pm to Fratastic423
Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:49 pm to Fratastic423
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I don't think they can sell directly to the public at all.
Doesn't Abita have a pub? I thought there was some sort of 10% allowance there, but maybe not.
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In MS when they were trying to raise the abv limit on beers in state, big time beer came out fully against the motion.
I worked in Northeast MS for about 6 months after Hurricane Rita. I remember searching numerous stores for pretty much ANY craft/micobrew beer, and couldn't find any. A few years later, I heard about their ABV limit, so I figure that was the reason for my failed attempts.
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:52 pm to ragincajun03
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Doesn't Abita have a pub? I thought there was some sort of 10% allowance there, but maybe not.
That is the rule how I understand it. There are a few posters who are knowledgeable on the subject so they can shed some light.
I think if the distributors had as much clout as we think they would have been out stronger against the recent change to the distilling law. They sort of opened the door to challenges, just a question of who is going to step up, or if anyone will.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:53 pm to fightin tigers
Abita has to ship their beer to their distributor then to the brew pub. They cannot deliver directly to the brew pub.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:56 pm to fightin tigers
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I think if the distributors had as much clout as we think they would have been out stronger against the recent change to the distilling law. They sort of opened the door to challenges, just a question of who is going to step up, or if anyone will.
I think that craft beer has a long way to go before that is an issue. I don't think there it is seen as a big enough threat yet. There was a lot of push back to that legislation though, which could be distributors trying through their representatives.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:00 pm to Fratastic423
The laws need to change. I recently read a report by the texas craft brewers guild(i think thats who wrote it) about the impact a few changes in the laws would have.
Eta: heres the article Link
We cant even go to a brewery and get growler fills here, so dumb.
Eta: heres the article Link
We cant even go to a brewery and get growler fills here, so dumb.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:17 pm to Fratastic423
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Abita has to ship their beer to their distributor then to the brew pub. They cannot deliver directly to the brew pub.
Now that's just f-ing dumb. There is no reason what-so-ever for Abita to be forced by law to do that. Free market anyone?
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:20 pm to Fratastic423
quote:you're becoming one of them.
Coors does a decent job of making some flavorful beers (Batch 19 (or 16), Blue Moon, etc), though.
Seriously though, what is batch 19?
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:23 pm to tetu
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Seriously though, what is batch 19?
It's a "pre-prohibition lager", apparently Coors' 19 batch. I saw it at a bar in DC, bought it thinking it was a craft beer, really liked it, looked it up and was disappointed in myself.
So since I liked it, I cannot fault them for tricking me becuase ultimately it is about taste.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:25 pm to Fratastic423
quote:seriously lold at this post.
looked it up and was disappointed in myself.
So since I liked it, I cannot fault them for tricking me becuase ultimately it is about taste.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:29 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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If some small place in Oregon does this, it would be considered genius.
Well, 1) if it is a good brewery, they wouldn't be making rice water beer. 2) Bourbon barrel beer is made all over the country already. The difference is quality.
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but anyone who thinks Sierra Nevada, Sam Adams and some of the other smaller breweries are still "craft," they are living in fantasy land.
They are still craft. It's a fact not up for dispute.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:31 pm to fightin tigers
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o the people in this thread don't think Bud can create true craft brews why? They have all of the resources and obviously have the know how.
Take a look at their new zipcode lineup. All lagers. They only mention one is all malt. That's pretty sad if you are trying to break into the craft market.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:38 pm to BugAC
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. All lagers.
well frick, I like Marzen and Dunkels not to mention an occasional Bock. I should revolt against this idea of a craft Lager.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:43 pm to ragincajun03
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Now that's just f-ing dumb. There is no reason what-so-ever for Abita to be forced by law to do that. Free market anyone?
Yes it is. It's marketed as the Abita brew pub, but in reality it's just a restaurant with the Abita name and their beers.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:55 pm to fightin tigers
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well frick, I like Marzen and Dunkels not to mention an occasional Bock. I should revolt against this idea of a craft Lager.
If they are from bud, then go for it. You obviously missed the point.
Lager is just a style i know. The BMC lager style is heavy on the rice, which accounts for the lack of flavor. Which is my point.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:22 pm to BugAC
Maybe the prejudice is well deserved. A friend hates Tin Roof for reasons I can't figure out. Before drinking a beer from them he already knows he won't like it because of the label. I think that type of prejudice will keep you from enjoying what could be a decent beer.
From what I have read in the descriptions posted I have no idea what to really expect. However I think letting brewmasters work some r&d in some of the finest breweries in the world could result in a beer worth trying.
From what I have read in the descriptions posted I have no idea what to really expect. However I think letting brewmasters work some r&d in some of the finest breweries in the world could result in a beer worth trying.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:31 pm to fightin tigers
quote:when bud says lager they mean "american adjunct lager" (official name of the style). If they were making a bock, marzen, etc they wouldnt be so vague. Even they dont like the term for thier style. Bad for business id think.
well frick, I like Marzen and Dunkels not to mention an occasional Bock. I should revolt against this idea of a craft Lager.
Big difference between american adjunct lager and a dopplebock and a marzen.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:54 pm to tetu
From the Article:
"A deep-gold, filtered wheat beer with 5.2 percent ABV using lemon peel, orange peel and coriander. The beer is brewed by Katie Rippel in Fort Collins and was developed by Nick Mills in Baldwinsville, Otto Kuhn in Merrimack and Tiago Darocha in Newark."
So they "developed" an American Hefeweizen? Great Job!
"A deep-gold, filtered wheat beer with 5.2 percent ABV using lemon peel, orange peel and coriander. The beer is brewed by Katie Rippel in Fort Collins and was developed by Nick Mills in Baldwinsville, Otto Kuhn in Merrimack and Tiago Darocha in Newark."
So they "developed" an American Hefeweizen? Great Job!
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:57 pm to RedHawk
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"A deep-gold, filtered wheat beer with 5.2 percent ABV using lemon peel, orange peel and coriander. The beer is brewed by Katie Rippel in Fort Collins and was developed by Nick Mills in Baldwinsville, Otto Kuhn in Merrimack and Tiago Darocha in Newark." So they "developed" an American Hefeweizen? Great Job!
And it only took 4 of them.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:02 pm to BMoney
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And it only took 4 of them.
Which proves that it will all be about marketing first and quality of beer second. When they release these to the general public, the public will think that Budweiser invented these beer types.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 10:54 pm to rutiger
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Most hardcore craft drinkers arent even gonna try it because bud makes it. Just as an example, there was a HUGE backlash last year when inbev bought goose island.
Where the hell have I been? I had no idea they bought them. I hope they don't screw up Goose Island Christmas and their stouts. And, if their going to buy it, at least let it hit the LA shelves.
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