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re: Etouffee - tomatoes or no tomatoes?

Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:28 pm to
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Its color and its flavor.

True. I boil a pot full of heads in plain water after a crawfish boil to make a stock, so I get the essence of crawfish from that, just not the flavor. Sure, digging the fat out and saving it for use in an etouffee will improve the flavor, but I just don't feel like doing it after boiling a ton of crawfish.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 4:29 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32429 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:06 pm to
Hell to the no
Posted by Count Spatula
Da House
Member since Jul 2017
51 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:48 pm to
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Basically, etouffee = smothered.


I've got to disagree with you bud. An etoufee is basically a thick gumbo using butter as the fat in the roux. The sweetness of the butter allows you to use proteins you wouldn't normally use in a gumbo, like crawfish.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:56 pm to
i and plenty of still-French-speaking folks in the 703- zip codes will continue to disagree with you. The butter based roux is definitely not a must, nor is the idea that etouffee is a method of dealing with things not found in gumbo. Crawfish etouffee is predates by many other things that get "etoufeed".
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:14 pm to
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Etouffee - tomatoes or no tomatoes?
quote:

tomatoes in gumbo

This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
3605 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:40 pm to
Red bell pepper, no tomatoes
Posted by Tbobby
Member since Dec 2006
4358 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

I boil a pot full of heads in plain water after a crawfish boil to make a stock


Big mistake for a lot of reasons
Posted by Count Spatula
Da House
Member since Jul 2017
51 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 7:29 pm to
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i and plenty of still-French-speaking folks in the 703- zip codes will continue to disagree with you


That's cool man. To each his own.

Btw I'm born and raised in Little Caillou
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 10:34 pm to
I like tomatoes. But then again I'm trash.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5834 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:18 pm to

We use home grown tomato puree in gumbos, beans, crawfish with okra, and many other things. We do it mainly for the nutritional value.

Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11806 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:05 am to
Cajuns always canned tomatoes and like someone said earlier, used what they had.. so what if you throw in a can of Rotel tomatoes.. they're on the shelf in every coonass grocery store.

Side note- throw a stewed tomato in your pot of Lima beans.. ca c'est bon
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 12:08 am
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18769 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 6:58 am to
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As much as restaurant chefs & TV & cookbook authors want to make Cajun cooking a fixed and orthodox thing, it ain't.


True.

I spot checked a few recipes. Most did not use tomatoes, but a couple did.

Folse (tomato sauce), Donald Link (none), Emeril (diced tomatoes), Marcelle Bienvenu (none), Acadiana Table, (none, and notes "the tomato paste assault some years ago that had to be rebuffed by the true bayou traditionalists"), and Prudhomme (none, and uses a dark oil-based roux).


Posted by Edt839
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:35 pm to
Cajun - no tomatoes
Creole - tomatoes
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8191 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:40 pm to
I don’t use them, but etouffe is one of the few dishes I understand why you’d use Rotel.
Posted by ssand
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:33 pm to
A five year old bump. Nice.
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:36 pm to
Newbie

FYI, admins don’t like these bumps, make a new topic.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17027 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 11:32 pm to
Never tomatoes
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25639 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 11:55 pm to
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Folse (tomato sauce)


Folse's recipe uses diced tomatoes as well. My wife copies Folse and it is by far my favorite etouffee whether some meemaw or chef in a white tablecloth restaurant prepares it. That said I did not grow up with cajun/creole food and I don't like all of the dishes, I eat the ones I love and avoid the ones I don't love. I never had a mawmaw or mother forcing me to eat it and like it without tomatoes. I like the tomatoes because it has a brighter taste and the acid brings balance to the dish. I also like mine baked over fish instead of over fried catfish which I think overpowers the etouffee.

I am just not one to be slavish to tradition when it comes to food, I will try it all and seek out what I prefer. Tradition has never gotten in the way of my enjoyment of food.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21247 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 5:02 am to
Yes.

And serve over “dirty rice” like all the pretend Cajun restaurants in Texas.
Posted by Royalfisher
Member since May 2022
459 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 5:41 pm to
No no no. Onions and butter x2. No red anything except maybe green peppers that were left in plant too long. This from a crawfish farm family.
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