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re: Chicken & Waffles just doesn't sound all that great to me.

Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by Boondock544
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:29 pm to
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Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:58 pm to
might as well just pour syrup on the chicken.

the waffles do not add to the dish at all.

I think that is why most people find it to be a weird combination. A thick, semi-sweet breed(basically what a waffle is) does not go with chicken.

I understand that sweetness of the syrup though.
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:21 am to
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the waffles do not add to the dish at all


Disagree. The waffles are an essential part of the dish. I think what you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong) is that they do nothing to enhance the existing flavors. Perhaps that is so, but it remains that the dish IS chicken & waffles. It's like saying the grits don't belong with shrimp and grits, or any other similar food pairing. The pairing has existed as a mainstay within certain cuisines for far longer than I've been alive and as such it simply IS.

I recognize how frustrating "Because that's how it's always been done" explanations can be, but sometimes that's the truth of the matter. The dish has origins and because of that history it's just the way it is.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:30 am to
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It's like saying the grits don't belong with shrimp and grits, or any other similar food pairing



the syrup compliments the chicken. NOT the waffles.

totally different


The texture and flavor of a waffle on its own is a mismatch with fried chicken. In fact you could argue that the main reason to fry the chicken is to add that extra 'breaded' dimension that the waffle is intended to bring, just not as efficient. Making it redundant.


shrimp & grits compliment one another. Their flavors are harmonious. The flavors of chicken and waffles are forced.
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:58 am to
My point still stands -- forced or not, the integrity of the dish depends upon the presence of the waffles. I'm not saying you're wrong in your presentation of why the waffles are superfluous, but I do think that's imposing a high-brow perspective on a quintessentially low-brow food. Though the origins of the meal are uncertain, a consistent element maintains that it was a combination of what was readily at hand, eventually becoming a common meal within African-American communities perhaps as early as the late 19th century. If that is so, it's at least plausible that perhaps the inclusion of the waffles was meant as a way to "stretch" the meal, although that is purely conjecture on my part. Whatever the cause for inclusion, I don't find the presence repugnant. Anyway, the two are served together whether they are a perfect, harmonious blend or something that is more forced, and it can be appreciated (I believe) for what it is.
Posted by andouille
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:50 am to
I'll never order C&W, just seems like a ridiculous glut of calories when we have so many fat people (me included) waddling around.

I am half direct Sicilian and NEVER add sugar to my red sauces, the delicate sweet component is provided by copious amounts of red wine, usually a burgundy.
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 5:47 am to
I agree with this although I've had them and they are good. I watch what I'm shoveling in. If I was going with that many calories from a number standpoint I'd eat an extra piece of chicken in lieu of the waffle and syrup.

I used to add just a pinch of sugar in my red sauce but I stopped doing that many years ago when I could not tell the difference in the acid of the tomatos, which was my only reason for using it to begin with.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:43 am to
I love sweet and savory. A good orange chicken for example.

As for chicken and waffles, I just am not that intrigued. I'm with Lester. Syrup on chicken would be good. (Like syrup on bacon).

But the waffle and the chicken are just meh sounding. I'd eat it and enjoy it, but it's not something I'd go for.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:50 am to
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the waffles do not add to the dish at all.


Why use bread with a sandwich, and why use different breads with different sandwiches to change flavor profiles within a sandwich?

Disagree. The waffle adds plenty. It adds texture, and depending on what your mix is for the waffle, you can add different flavor elements like almond extract, vanilla bean, cayenne for some kick, fruit, etc, but same as a waffle cone to ice cream or bread to a sandwich, it's a vessel to hold it, and the waffling makes it condusive to holding the syrup if you don't want to roll it. It makes great street food being something you can hold and carry around and eat, drizzle or dip with a syrup. I'd say the things you can do with a dish like this are fresh and limited only by your imagination.





Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:07 am to
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Why use bread with a sandwich


definition of a sandwich?

It's not so much about flavor combinations. It is just bulky and difficult to eat.

How about corn on the cob in a chef's salad?



Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:15 am to
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It's not so much about flavor combinations. It is just bulky and difficult to eat.


Grilled cheese on rye or pump, or grilled cheese on white,, or sourdough?

Posted by DeltaHog
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:18 am to
Wow.

You people never eat salty caramel ice cream?

Hot dog bun, smoked sausage, swiss cheese and strawberry jelly....so good.

Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:20 am to
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It's not so much about flavor combinations. It is just bulky and difficult to eat.



Grilled cheese on rye or pump, or grilled cheese on white,, or sourdough?


How are these bulky and difficult to eat?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:27 am to
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How are these bulky and difficult to eat?


The point I illustrated with grilled cheese on different breads was that there are flavor profiles to bread, and it's not only something we use to simply hold bulky items. Sure, bread serves a practicle purpose, but there are definite flavors in breads that work well with some thing and not so well with others without changing it up a bit. Same with a waffle. There's the "American Waffle" that is the only thing that comes to people's minds when you mention the word waffle and then there are of course flavors you can introduce within the waffle that can change a dish considerably.

Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:32 am to
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The point I illustrated with grilled cheese on different breads was that there are flavor profiles to bread,


We have nothing to discuss here. I agree about flavors. My posts have nothing to do with flavors.

How about corn on the cob on top of a spinach salad?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:42 am to
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How about corn on the cob on top of a spinach salad?


I honestly didn't understand where you were going with that.
Posted by geauxnc0308
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:45 am to
Here it is Vegas style from last Sunday. Someone on the board recommended it. It was pretty darn good, especially with the bloody mary...
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:50 am to
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I honestly didn't understand where you were going with that.


Chicken and waffles is bulky and difficult to eat.

Corn on the cob on a salad may have great flavors, but it still doesn't go together.
Posted by MaggieMay
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:57 am to
I've never had chicken and waffles? what's the big deal? is it actual waffles or waffle FF?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:58 am to
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Chicken and waffles is bulky and difficult to eat.


In as much as an open face sandwich is, or if you roll over and eat like a sandwich, any sandwich. I don't see that at all.
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