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Brisket Help on a BGE - I Need It!
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:02 pm
I've been trying to smoke brisket for over two years and to be honest my latest wasn't much better than then. I'm using a Lg BGE. I've tweaked this and that but it seems like something else under-performs.
Is anybody else smoking brisket on a BGE, Primo, etc with success and consistency? How are you doing it?
This is from a thread I started 2+ years ago:
How Well Can You Cook in the Four BBQ Categories?LINK
I've improved big time on shoulders, some on ribs. and can knock yard bird out the park regularly.
Is anybody else smoking brisket on a BGE, Primo, etc with success and consistency? How are you doing it?
This is from a thread I started 2+ years ago:
How Well Can You Cook in the Four BBQ Categories?LINK
I've improved big time on shoulders, some on ribs. and can knock yard bird out the park regularly.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:12 pm to AlwysATgr
Are you cooking a whole brisket? Are you manually regulating the temp or are you using one of those digital controllers? What problems are you having?
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:22 pm to Boston911
quote:- Yep
Are you cooking a whole brisket?
quote:- I'm only using the BGE thermometer and probe type thermometer for internal temp checks. My temp usually doesn't fluctuate too much. I have tried to stay around 225 degF on most brisket smokes. This weekend I smoked at 275 degF.
Are you manually regulating the temp or are you using one of those digital controllers?
quote:- At one time or another almost all of them. I just can't seem to get everything right apparently.
What problems are you having?
Most recently, it had little smoke flavor (even though I had lots of red oak in the box, a clean burn - the smoke aroma was almost worth the price of admission by itself), my bark wasn't very thick, and it was almost like it was sliding around on the meat underneath it.
Boston911 - appreciate any help you can offer
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:23 pm to AlwysATgr
What is going wrong?
Single biggest improvement you can make is meat quality. Never cook anything less than usda choice. You can get prime at costco at a good price.
Single biggest improvement you can make is meat quality. Never cook anything less than usda choice. You can get prime at costco at a good price.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:35 pm to Catman88
quote:
Single biggest improvement you can make is meat quality.
My first half-dozen were low-end packer cuts I got at HEB. My last two were higher grades (select?). I thought by upgrading my meat quality I could change my results. But I can't say it's been noticeably better.
This most recent one - it came out tender, moist but had substandard bark, caramelization, little smoke flavor - just tasted like roast beef.
If I sound whiny, please forgive. Just frustrated because I really like smoked brisket.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:38 pm to AlwysATgr
Possibly too much fat cap. Also the temp on the top of the dome is often considerably different than at the grate.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:41 pm to AlwysATgr
Select is going to be shoe leather in most cases. I have seen usda prime at Costco under $4 a lb.
If you had something lower than select then that is going to be a tremendous problem. There is a fat cap but no marble in meat resulting in very dry meat.
If you had something lower than select then that is going to be a tremendous problem. There is a fat cap but no marble in meat resulting in very dry meat.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:43 pm to AlwysATgr
If it tasted like roast then you probably wrapped in foil and it steamed too much. Dont wrap until its a nice mahogany color. Try no wrap or butcher paper.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:51 pm to AlwysATgr
I'd say get a better temp probe. You want the see what your temp is at the grate, not the dome temp.
This is a 10lb prime brisket from Costco cooked on my friend's large BGE, using a BBQ Guru Pit viper controller. Used the "Franklin style" rub, salt, pepper, pickle juice, mustard, garlic.
About 8 hours at 225. Took off at 203 internal. Cut off the burnt ends and put back on grill. Wrapped the brisket in paper, then towels, and rested in icechest for an hour before serving.
It was awesome.
This is a 10lb prime brisket from Costco cooked on my friend's large BGE, using a BBQ Guru Pit viper controller. Used the "Franklin style" rub, salt, pepper, pickle juice, mustard, garlic.
About 8 hours at 225. Took off at 203 internal. Cut off the burnt ends and put back on grill. Wrapped the brisket in paper, then towels, and rested in icechest for an hour before serving.
It was awesome.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:54 pm to busbeepbeep
You're rubbing salt in the wound!
Posted on 7/11/16 at 9:57 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:aww, come on. I explained the method, and proved it worked with evidence.
You're rubbing salt in the wound!
Posted on 7/11/16 at 10:04 pm to busbeepbeep
quote:
busbeepbeep
That's looks incredible - what a brisket is s'pose to look like!
Fat cap up or down (looks up)?
Did y'all wrap with paper only after you removed it from the smoker or at some point during the smoke?
What kind of wood were you using?
Water pan?
Posted on 7/11/16 at 10:08 pm to AlwysATgr
Fat cap up or down (looks up)? UP
Did y'all wrap with paper only after you removed it from the smoker or at some point during the smoke? Not wrapped during smoke, only afterwards while resting
What kind of wood were you using? Hickory
Water pan? No
I think this BBQ Guru DIgiQ is the secret weapon at maintaining consistent temperature while smoking.
Did y'all wrap with paper only after you removed it from the smoker or at some point during the smoke? Not wrapped during smoke, only afterwards while resting
What kind of wood were you using? Hickory
Water pan? No
I think this BBQ Guru DIgiQ is the secret weapon at maintaining consistent temperature while smoking.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 10:30 pm to OTIS2
some smoke rings on that would be nice
Posted on 7/12/16 at 12:56 am to Lester Earl
What do you think that pink ring just below the bark is? Spilled kool-aid?
Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:07 am to GeauxTigers0107
It sounds like you are doing everything right. What are you using for a rub? I did one this past weekend at 225 for 13 hours up to 203 in the point. turned out perfect. I trimmed the hard fat around the edges, but left the cap completely. Nice and moist.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:15 am to OTIS2
Just MHO, I think you are over thinking it. Get a good brisket ,trim it to 1/4 inch fat. Rub w salt and pepper the night before. Smoke over white or post oak 225-250, w water pan on the plate, no wrap , at 195 internal temp take off wrap and rest in a cooler. Dont open the BGE except to add water and wood every four or five hours.
I've also done this on a Oklahoma Joe three July 4ths in a row and they turned out perfect the only difference with this smoker is you have to wrap with butcher paper after five hours.
The smoke gets through that paper somehow so the oak keeps it from getting bitter or over smoky.
I've also done this on a Oklahoma Joe three July 4ths in a row and they turned out perfect the only difference with this smoker is you have to wrap with butcher paper after five hours.
The smoke gets through that paper somehow so the oak keeps it from getting bitter or over smoky.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:26 am to AlwysATgr
I would start with choice or prime cuts first. Believe it or not, Aaron Franklin doesn't use just salt/pepper. He uses a 3/2/1 mix of coarse black pepper/sea salt/garlic powder on top of a mustard/pickle juice mix. I inject mine with beef bullion and a little MSG. I have had good success with cutting the flat off and cooking the point and flat together and pulling the flat off earlier.
I use the BBQ Guru to temp control because the top of the egg is much warmer than the grate. I also make my wn charcoal, not because it's any better, but I don't like using the small pieces which make up about 20% of commercial lump charcoal. Fist sized lumps is what I use. I would try to start at 225 for a few hrs with some hick/mesquite/oak, then after 3/4 hrs crank the heat up a bit to 275, even 300 and spray it with some apple juice once or twice. Once it reaches 201-203 in the thickest part, remove, wrap and put in an ice chest for two hrs.
Smoke ring isn't a guarantee, but it does happen often.
Brisket is finicky, you'll have to meet up a few and figure it out. The only other thing I got for you is to read the forums in the Internet.
I use the BBQ Guru to temp control because the top of the egg is much warmer than the grate. I also make my wn charcoal, not because it's any better, but I don't like using the small pieces which make up about 20% of commercial lump charcoal. Fist sized lumps is what I use. I would try to start at 225 for a few hrs with some hick/mesquite/oak, then after 3/4 hrs crank the heat up a bit to 275, even 300 and spray it with some apple juice once or twice. Once it reaches 201-203 in the thickest part, remove, wrap and put in an ice chest for two hrs.
Smoke ring isn't a guarantee, but it does happen often.
Brisket is finicky, you'll have to meet up a few and figure it out. The only other thing I got for you is to read the forums in the Internet.
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