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Baton Rouge Market for a Craft Brewery

Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:48 am
Posted by Al Dente
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2014
156 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:48 am
Is there one? To my knowledge, Tin Roof is the only one in BR. I'm no beer aficionado, but I don't think Tin Roof crafts a very good beer. Do they make any money? Is there room in the BR market for another to actually make some good beer? Calling all FBD'ers.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 10:49 am
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:51 am to
There are two, Tin Roof and Southern Craft.

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Do they make any money?


Tin Roof does... Southern Craft is very very new, so probably not yet.

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Is there room in the BR market for another to actually make some good beer?


There is plenty of room.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67115 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:52 am to
There may be. I think Tin Roof's Turnrow is alright. I'd like to see them put Smilin' Ivan in cans because that stuff is amazing.

However, I think there's money to be made with a brewery/restaurant/music venue if it can be located in mid-city along government, near the Perkins Road Overpass, or in downtown close to the 3rd Street bars.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26588 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:58 am to
I was just talking with a friend the other day about how someone in Baton Rouge could make a ton of money by opening a Cidery.

I'm personally not a big cider fan - generally too sweet for my taste. But someone could corner that market in BR, and being in a place that is warm for most of the year, cider would probably be very popular. Especially with the ladies.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:00 am to
Yeah, i believe there is plenty of room to grow in Baton Rouge. Especially if you brew good beer. Tin Roof isn't good in my opinion. They succeed in being the 1st in Baton Rouge, canning their beers, having some decent starting capital, and marketing their beers fairly well. I really wish they would just brew a good beer. Last time i bought tin roof from a grocery store has been at least a year ago. Smiling Ivan last year was teh last beer i bought, and it wasn't bad. But they just need a consistently well done regular offering.

Southern craft could get the ball rolling on good beer in BR. As others said, they are very new, and just getting started so expect growing pains. I still haven't had any, but i'm looking to try some when i can.

Louisiana in general is a ripe market to expand local craft beer. Our regulations are a killer on small start up breweries, though. But once you get past that, you are golden. I think of it this way, every bud/miller/coors drinker is a potential craft beer drinker, they just don't know it yet.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24359 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:01 am to
I keep hoping someone in BR makes a goat level beer so that we can brewery shitlord it without traveling.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26588 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:02 am to
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Louisiana in general is a ripe market to expand local craft beer.


I 100% agree. If I knew the first thing about starting a brewery, I'd move back to LA and find investors ASAP.

There are so many great breweries up where I live - and what's cool is that they never seem to be in competition with one another. They all just focus on making really solid brews, and people become customers of all of them. I've definitely been known to go to 3 or 4 breweries on a nice Saturday afternoon.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112675 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:03 am to
It's crazy that with BR's metro population there are only two craft breweries. Hell, there are three alone around Lafayette with a much smaller population and a bunch on the Northshore.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:12 am to
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There are so many great breweries up where I live


Impossible to compare different regions because the laws vary wildly.

Go to the breweries up there and tell them:

1. You can no longer sell beer directly to customers.
2. You can have tours of the brewery and can give 36 oz. of free samples with a purchase of a tour.
3. You can't sell beer to go, but you can upgrade the tour and they can take a limited amount of beer with them.
4. You can only be open certain hours.

That's how it is in Georgia.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 11:15 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26588 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Impossible to compare different regions because the laws vary wildly.


I'm not really trying to compare regions, just more making the comment that you can have a lot of breweries in one area and they will all make a profit. And those are some really tight laws in Georgia, jeez.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:30 am to
quote:

I'm not really trying to compare regions


Understand

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And those are some really tight laws in Georgia, jeez.


Totally sucks.

One Savannah place, which started as a brewpub is building a new facility across the river in South Carolina. An absolute shame.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26588 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:31 am to
quote:

One Savannah place, which started as a brewpub is building a new facility across the river in South Carolina. An absolute shame.


Yeah I can see those laws changing once Georgia sees how much revenue they are missing out on. I thought Massachusetts had some BS laws when it comes to drinking, but I will say they have been more than willing to change laws to allow small business breweries to get their start.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67115 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Louisiana in general is a ripe market to expand local craft beer. Our regulations are a killer on small start up breweries, though. But once you get past that, you are golden. I think of it this way, every bud/miller/coors drinker is a potential craft beer drinker, they just don't know it yet.




Not only that, but the politicians enforcing them. Two Mayor/president candidates both have had a hand in stifiling the industry. Smokey on the alcohol board typically tries to hassle new-comers to the overpass area to keep them from competing with his bar, George's. Delgado, who took Smokey's seat on the metro council, uses his influence to stifle competition downtown as he owns at least a partial stake in most of the 3rd street bars (Huey's, City Bar, Club 19whatever, ect) as well as the Brickyard South.

I have heard from several people who have tried to open up music venues, restaurants, or bars all having trouble with permits being held up by these two characters.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Yeah I can see those laws changing once Georgia sees how much revenue they are missing out on.


You have more confidence in politicians and the department of revenue than I.

Lowlifes.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Smokey on the alcohol board typically tries to hassle new-comers to the overpass area to keep them from competing with his bar, George's. Delgado, who took Smokey's seat on the metro council, uses his influence to stifle competition downtown as he owns at least a partial stake in most of the 3rd street bars (Huey's, City Bar, Club 19whatever, ect) as well as the Brickyard South.


Yup. Delgado is pure slime, and Smokey isn't much better.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24755 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

There are so many great breweries up where I live - and what's cool is that they never seem to be in competition with one another.


This. Most brewers tend to help each other out and respect each other's beers. I can see one brewer getting butthurt if they are getting their asses kicked, but generally they will all find their niche in the market.

I think Baton Rouge could support a number of new breweries. Most breweries start out small and cater mainly locals, like a restaurant.
Posted by LSUcdro
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2009
11129 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:56 pm to
Im of the opinion that if you make good beer, it will sell... Doesnt matter if theres other breweries
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21274 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:08 pm to
You put it nicer than me. I'd say both, especially Delgado, are Grade D pieces of shite.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7324 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Im of the opinion that if you make good beer, it will sell... Doesnt matter if theres other breweries


Yep. Craft beer drinkers are promiscuous. I know I'm always hunting for new beers. There's enough business to go around.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3016 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

However, I think there's money to be made with a brewery/restaurant/music venue if it can be located in mid-city along government, near the Perkins Road Overpass, or in downtown close to the 3rd Street bars


Tin Roof's location should be more of a money-maker than it is. I don't know why they don't have a sign on Nicholson (the people who own that rental truck lot would surely be willing to lease 20sq.ft of it), a few U-hauls parked in the wrong spot and they have no street visibility whatsoever. They do this despite the fact that they're located half way between the largest group of hotels in BR and the most popular place to visit in BR.
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