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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:19 pm to Tigertown in ATL
I meant weak in flavor/appeal, not in ABV... sorry for the confusion.
There are some out there that I enjoy though... Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier is a nice summer brew. Ayinger Celebrator is pretty good as well.
There are some out there that I enjoy though... Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier is a nice summer brew. Ayinger Celebrator is pretty good as well.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:27 pm to LSUBoo
quote:would you consider a large batch brew if you could rent the boil kettle use and fermenter space, rent bottling/canning/kegging equipment, purchase bottles/cans/crowlers, and purchase raw materials through the provider?
LSUBoo
Kicker would be that provider owns exclusive future brewing rights in perpetuity. if additional incarnations of the same brew were to take place, the brewer and provider would be 50/50 partners in product and profit
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:28 pm to Rouge
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:31 pm to bleeng
quote:the historical American home on Anheuser-Busch is killing it with German styles beers. shocking
Urban Chestnut-St. Louis These guys are killing it with a base lineup of German style beers.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:31 pm to LSUBoo
quote:
I meant weak in flavor/appeal, not in ABV... sorry for the confusion.
That is how I took it. I don't care for German beers, at least the ones I have had.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:35 pm to Rouge
Maybe... I'd have to do more research and run the numbers.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:48 pm to TigerWise
quote:
Just took a quick poll in my office. 20% like craft beer, 100% like pizza.
I just checked: Annual Beer sales are $105B. Annual pizza sales are $38B.
Boom...
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:48 pm to Rouge
quote:
Truly enjoy what you do, and you'll never work a day in your life
I truly hate cleaning the few kegs I already have. Add a few hundred more and it sounds fricking miserable.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:49 pm to BMoney
quote:fixed
Truly enjoy what you do and pay others to do the bullshite, and you'll never work a day in your life
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:10 pm to Rouge
quote:
would you consider a large batch brew if you could rent the boil kettle use and fermenter space, rent bottling/canning/kegging equipment, purchase bottles/cans/crowlers, and purchase raw materials through the provider?
Kicker would be that provider owns exclusive future brewing rights in perpetuity. if additional incarnations of the same brew were to take place, the brewer and provider would be 50/50 partners in product and profit
Are you referring to a contract brewer?
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:12 pm to BugAC
quote:no
Are you referring to a contract brewer?
i'm referring to a malted beverage incubator
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:15 pm to Rouge
quote:
no
i'm referring to a malted beverage incubator
Well the first part you explained is identical to a contract brewer.
LINK
That's how brash started. I believe they used Clown Shoes facility in Massachussetts to brew.
The other stuff you typed would simply be contract language.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:23 pm to BugAC
Some pros to contract brewing
And these are some of the drawbacks
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Although contract brewing has a higher cost of goods due to the overhead and profit owed to the host brewer, the bulk of the business is a variable cost with very little overhead. Rather than having the usual revenue expenses associated with owning a business—rent, lease on forklift, loans on brewing machinery, payroll for a large staff—contract brewers use their capital for additional brand building and marketing activities to yield a higher return on investment. “One of the primary reasons we chose contract brewing was to get our product line into the marketplace and establish brand identity before we committed to building our own brewery,” said Altimari. “This not only reduced our upfront costs but allowed a much faster time to market.”
And these are some of the drawbacks
quote:
“No matter what the sliding scale of commitment, unless a contract brewer has full control over the brewery and staff (co-ownership), a contract brew is only at or below the highest level of performance of the host brewery,” said Del Grande. “This includes challenges like shifting scheduling whims or sanitary mistakes of staff, but also benefits like high quality equipment I couldn’t normally afford.”
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:27 pm to BugAC
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Well the first part you explained is identical to a contract brewer.
No, they are paying for use of the equipment and for supplies, not for a contract brewer to brew for them. The creator of the beer would be in charge of the brewing process for that day. I'm sure under some assistance/supervision of the brewery/incubator owner. After all, it's still their equipment.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:38 pm to LSUBoo
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No, they are paying for use of the equipment and for supplies, not for a contract brewer to brew for them.
It's the same wheelhouse. Pretty things did this. They called themselves a "tenant brewer". It's all a variation of the broader term of contract brewing.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:43 pm to BugAC
Actually, my mistake, it's more closely associated with an alternating brewery proprietorship.
LINK
LINK
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What is an “alternating brewery proprietorship”? An “alternating proprietorship” is a term we use to describe an arrangement in which two or more people take turns using the physical premises of a brewery. Generally, the proprietor of an existing brewery, the “host brewer,” agrees to rent space and equipment to a new “tenant brewer.” The tenant qualifies as a brewer under part 25 by filing the appropriate documents with TTB. The tenant produces beer, keeps appropriate brewery records, labels the beer with its own name and address, obtains the necessary COLAs, and pays tax at the appropriate rate upon removal of its beer from the brewery. The tenant brewer has title to the beer at all stages of the brewing process. Alternating brewery proprietorships allow existing breweries to use excess capacity and give new entrants to the beer business an opportunity to begin on a small scale, without investing in premises and equipment. Regulations in part 25 do not refer to this type of arrangement. However, in the mid-1980s, ATF began approving applications for alternate methods and procedures that allow two or more brewers to alternate the use of brewery premises and equipment.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:01 pm to BugAC
Also, here's some interesting facts about craft beer in Louisiana.
LINK
NATIONAL RANKINGS
We are ranked 49th in breweries per capita.
We are ranked 24th in production, consumption, and total economic impact in the US.
We are ranked 36th economic impact per capita.
So despite being nearly dead last in # of breweries, we still sell and consume better than half the country. I would attribute a lot of this to Abita being one of the oldest and largest crafter breweries in the country.
But that does spell good things for the craft industry in this state.
LINK
NATIONAL RANKINGS
We are ranked 49th in breweries per capita.
We are ranked 24th in production, consumption, and total economic impact in the US.
We are ranked 36th economic impact per capita.
So despite being nearly dead last in # of breweries, we still sell and consume better than half the country. I would attribute a lot of this to Abita being one of the oldest and largest crafter breweries in the country.
But that does spell good things for the craft industry in this state.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:25 am to BugAC
I see a downvote on my last post. Do facts scare you? What reason could you possibly have for downvoting this, and pretty much every post i make?
You actually took the time to go back and downvote every post i made in this thread? What a noble warrior you are...
You actually took the time to go back and downvote every post i made in this thread? What a noble warrior you are...
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 7:27 am
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:30 am to BugAC
quote:
I see a downvote on my last post. Do facts scare you? What reason could you possibly have for downvoting this, and pretty much every post i make?
You actually took the time to go back and downvote every post i made in this thread? What a noble warrior you are...
You "care" way too much
Fwiw, I don't pay enough attention to your inane ramblings to down vote your posts
Whoever did it just knew that it would get under your skin, and they were correct
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