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re: Anyone here started their own bar?

Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:44 am to
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:44 am to
I think the food at the Bulldog is pretty mediocre. We used to go there a lot, but since Curbside opened up right next to our house, that's where we go. The beer selection at Curbside is OK, I do wish they would improve it a tad.

Haven't been to Pelican House in ages. Since Corporate Brew & Draft opened up, that's where we go when we're in the area and I want to drink craft beer. CBD has the best beer selection in town. It has a better atmosphere than Pelican House and is a bit cheaper. The only drawback is that no one goes to the place, so you end up talking to the bartender the whole time.

I think there's an opening for a craft beer place with good food in Baton Rouge. Maybe between Nicholson and LSU? Or at the old Entergy site on Government? Or the medical district around Bluebonnet-Essen-Perkins? Or past all those new LSU apartments on Burbank-Nicholson?
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7496 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:57 am to
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Give me a place with an outdoor atmosphere similar to Curbside, but with a slightly larger and better tap list, and I'd be a regular. Give me a non smoking patio, and I'd practically live there.



Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:21 am to
What happened to the rumored beer garden on Sherwood Forest?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:59 am to
I dont understand the obsession over outdoor seating. Our climate is terrible for this for the majority of the year.

Curbside is chairs and tables in a rock garden looking at Govt St.

A no smoking patio? I mean jesus we are talking about a bar here, not somewhere to take your kids
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136852 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:04 pm to
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I mean jesus we are talking about a bar here, not somewhere to take your kids
tell that to Houstonians

They are the worst
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:13 pm to
Im simple when it comes to bars. A place to sit that I might stick to when I get up, a bartender you can talk with if needed, and maybe a jukebox. Im there to drink beer and bullshite with my friends. I dont need some pampered setting

This thread along with other bar threads is filled with people that need lush outdoor seating, no smoking within 500 feet of said area, jungle gyms for the kids, ample space for their dogs to roam, sausage bars, superior food at a cheap price, best taps in the city, great music, a view of a stream or waterfall, etc or they wont be a customer.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81232 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:36 pm to
I disagree. Baton Rouge isn't New Orleans. We don't have neighborhood hole in the wall bars, and we've already seen time and time again that 4 walls and a bar isn't going to succeed here (Shadys, anyone?). With rent prices the way they are, even successful bars have trouble staying afloat when they're dead Sunday-Wednesday.

If you think opening any ole bar in BR, without legit backing and money being poured into it, would be successful, all I have to say is don't include me on that shite business plan.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:41 pm to
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Jumping in this thread. One of the BR challenges is lack of creative and interesting indoor/outdoor spaces, whether new development or adaptive reuse. 


I agree with this. I think a slightly smaller version of Bangers would be awesome to have and I would be there regularly. Like others have said, it can't be a view of the back of a building or parking lot though. Tin roof has done a solid job of lysine the indoor/outdoor concept, even though the view isnt great they have a good open area.

There needs to be the picnic table area, covered and not covered, for food and beer drinking, and an indoor bar area. There also needs to be a large open area with bocce/shuffleboard/horseshoes...

Location is going to be the hardest part unless the funds are there. Everything in Olive or twists location failed before them, they did it right and were able to adjust with growth over time though. This concept has to be expansive from the get go.

I have thought about similar ideas for a while, I would be interested in drinking beer and talking about this more.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81232 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:48 pm to
Supposedly, Tchoup Yard in NOLA has been killing it and they have that outdoor setup that people seem to really like.





Like people said previously, it would have to be done right with good beer and a comfortable setup and a good location.

How is Tin Roof doing with visitors? Haven't been in a while. I think both their setup the new Caneland distillery are awesome, but I wonder if they weren't making money off their retail product if they get the amount of traffic to that area to sustain themselves. BR is really a tough crowd. Two places 50ft from one another can both be awesome, but one is randomly a doomed location.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:53 pm to
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I disagree. Baton Rouge isn't New Orleans. We don't have neighborhood hole in the wall bars


I deleted my line that said sadly the neighborhood bar is going by the wayside. Now people need constant entertainment when going somewhere to drink, which is ironic because they constantly have their heads in their phones anyway. So yes new bars in the area around LSU need some sort of extra thing to get people there. Hole in the wall bars are fine if they are already established.


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and we've already seen time and time again that 4 walls and a bar isn't going to succeed here (Shadys, anyone?)


Lol well if that isnt cherry picking a place. That was probably the most poorly run place in the history of the Tigerland area. I can refute that with the place next door Bogies. 4 walls, a bar, a shithole, and it prints money. I dont think this thread is about college bars though.


Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16279 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:54 pm to
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I dont understand the obsession over outdoor seating.


Because I fricking like to sit outside.

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A no smoking patio?


And I fricking hate cigarette smoke. There's a special place in hell for people who smoke on patios. frick smokers.




Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:58 pm to
Completely agree, BR is a concept serial killer.

Tin roof has had a solid crowd every time I have been and the weather was nice. It is usually slammed when they have an event, even if it is just a food truck. That apartment complex right next to them will be full of young professionals and will probably be a huge source of revenue for them.

In my ideal setup, southern craft would have bought another one of those warehouses near tin roof and that area would become a "beer district." With a bangers style bar, a few tap rooms, and a food truck parking lot. This would kill it on gamedays if the Nicholson tram ever happened.

Yes, I know this is not going to happen.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81232 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:01 pm to
To be fair, smokers aren't allowed to bring their drink outside without being tackled so they have no choice but to smoke on a patio. I understand finding smoking annoying, but a non smoking patio seems unlikely in a bar where patrons must be at minimum 18 years old.

Jones - I'm not even touching that. You're a retard. You could write a literal book listing the bars and restaurants that have failed or are on the cusp of failing because some average Joe wanted a business but was unambitious and lazy.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16279 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:19 pm to
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To be fair, smokers aren't allowed to bring their drink outside without being tackled so they have no choice but to smoke on a patio. I understand finding smoking annoying, but a non smoking patio seems unlikely in a bar where patrons must be at minimum 18 years old.


There are plenty of other cities that have establishments with non-smoking patios. Why can't somewhere in BR cater to people who like to sit outside without having to deal with other people's cancer sticks?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136852 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:24 pm to
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Why can't somewhere in BR cater to people who like to sit outside without having to deal with other people's cancer sticks?
because it is their bar and they will run it how they see fit?

I don't get the point in complaining about house rules. Stay home or open your own place.

I think all bars should have signage on the front door denoting how they handle smoking. Then the consumer can make their decision and be done with it.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:29 pm to
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because it is their bar and they will run it how they see fit?


Agreed.

I hate smoking, but if a bar owner wants to allow it, who am I to stop them. I just won't go there.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16279 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:31 pm to
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Stay home


I do. And it's their loss, since I'm not spending money there. But by all means, places should certainly cater to the 22% of the population that enjoys lung cancer, not the 78% that doesn't.

I'd like to see one place here go totally smoke free. I'd support the hell out of them.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103178 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:40 pm to
I.handle smoking my own way. If I am on a patio and see some scumbags lighting up heaters I go sit as close to them as possible and crank up a stogie and blow the smoke toward them. Turnabout is fair play
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81232 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:41 pm to
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And it's their loss, since I'm not spending money there

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22% of the population


This may be true of the population, but I'd bet the % of smokers who frequent drinking establishments is far higher.

Not saying a non smoking patio wouldn't work. I'd just be surprised to see it happen at a bar in BR. Especially if they don't serve [much] food.
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15429 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:44 pm to
I prefer a dark hole in the wall to drink. If I want to sit outside and drink I'll go camping or in my back porch
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