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Would you suspect collusion in this trade?

Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Jayre
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:40 pm
Team A: 0-4 after tonight trades:

Aaron Rodgers
Greg Olsen


Team B: 2-2 after tonight, trades:

Andrew Luck
Ladarius Green

Posted by AmOutlawBR
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
1153 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:42 pm to
veto and fight them
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
36951 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:42 pm to
I would question why its a QB/TE for QB/TE trade when one side is getting both the better QB and better TE.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40483 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:43 pm to
I was expecting something whacky, I honestly don't know which side got the better of the deal here. Rodgers has outplayed Luck, but expectations were similar and Olson>Green.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40483 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:46 pm to
You think Luck is better to own than Rodgers?
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Rodgers has outplayed Luck
Significantly and Luck is also injured.

I'd like to see the owner receiving Luck/Green to explain his thought process.

A trade like this (positions being the same) that only upgrades one team is a red flag for me.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278309 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:49 pm to
It's a lopsided trade but I don't think i could veto as a commish.


Would i express my displeasure? hell yea. Especially if im trying to compete with the 2-2 team. This clearly throws the balance off in the league, but can easily be argued on paper for either side.
Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

I would question why its a QB/TE for QB/TE trade when one side is getting both the better QB and better TE.


This. Doesn't make a ton of sense. Not to mention Gates comes back this week, making Green even worse to own
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

You think Luck is better to own than Rodgers?

From what I read, one team is getting Rodgers and Olsen.

The other team is getting a lesser QB and lesser TE (same positions). Yes, that's fishy.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

but can easily be argued on paper for either side.
Hypothetically argue receiving Luck/Green in this trade in relation to giving up Rodgers and Olsen.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 4:00 pm to
Lopsided or not, what exactly is the point of the deal?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278309 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 4:00 pm to
it's still early enough in the season to lean on Luck's track record. A guy who accounted for 43 TDs last year and 4700yards passing.

Rodgers is playing really well(some good games, and leaning on one huge game to this point), but this isn't deep enough into a season to close the book on Luck.

Ladarius Green's stats prorated to 4 games (he missed a game) are slightly better than Greg Olsen's. Yes, Gates is coming back but Green should still be a factor here.

20-232-3
17- 243-2


Is the guy receiving Luck/Green banking on Luck picking up the pace soon, to a point where he is better or equal to Rodgers? Could he think Green is on the midst of something big? I don't really know. Would I do it? No. Would i voice my displeasure? absolutely. Could I veto it? no. And im a huge veto proponent
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

And im a huge veto proponent
I'm the opposite and I don't like this trade at all. You make a interesting case, and I think Luck (non-injury) will be fine. As I stated earlier, same positions swaps raise a red flag for me.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278309 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 4:08 pm to
If it were any QB other then luck is flip my shite
Posted by HumbleNinja
Ann Arbor
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 4:18 pm to
Definitely collusion.
Posted by Jayre
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2011
590 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 4:18 pm to
Great feedback guys I really appreciate it... Trade was vetoed
Posted by krehn11
IA
Member since Jul 2011
1486 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 4:38 pm to
Team A may have been sick of his squad and wanted a change. He's 0-4, what's it going to hurt to take a risk? If Luck starts playing like 2014 luck, it could payoff.

BUT, Green's role is going to diminish now that Gates is back.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40483 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 5:12 pm to
I'm an idiot, I thought Luck and Olsen were paired. Disregard my stupidity.
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
36951 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 6:18 pm to
You just read it wrong. It happens.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Green's role is going to diminish now that Gates is back.

I keep seeing this, but until we see a game we have no idea if that is true. Gates is 35 and coming off of a suspension.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 7:12 pm
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