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TDBBL Rule Changes Thread-
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:25 pm
i think we should at least figure out what we're voting on, so I'm going to consolidate all of the things we talk about into the first post, that way we don't miss anything we've discussed, and all the absentees can see them in a clear fashion later.
EDIT: Let's clarify to say that if four people sponsor this rule, it'll pass to a vote.
EDIT: If we can get two thirds right here in this thread, would everyone be okay just adopting it?
- Catastrophe IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place an injured player into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. However, if this IR privilege is used, than the owner is required to KEEP that player the following year. The player may still be traded, but must be a KEEPER for the respective owner traded as well.
-EDIT: As this rule is currently constructed, the player can return to the active roster within the season.
Sponsors (4): Karma, Gyno, LE, McCain,
-Traditional IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place injured player(s) into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. The IR's eligibility will be dictated by ESPN. At the end of the player's IR eligibility, he can be moved back into the active roster.
Sponsors (2): McCain, Gyno
-Game Cap Limits-
Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week.
-Edit: Phan conditionally supports if FA pickup rule not adopted.
Sponsors (0)
-Free Agent Pickup Limits-
Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 4 FA Pickups per week.
-Edit: LE proposes 4 FA pickups per week.
-Edit: Phan conditionally supports, but only if 3 FA pickups per week
Sponsors (2): LE, Port
-Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters-
All teams not competing in the playoffs are no longer active teams, and can not add or pick up players dropped by playoff teams. All FAs and waivers will continue to the draft pool the following year.
Sponsors (4): Karma, Gyno, Mccain, Phan
-Slow Draft/Live Draft-
Choosing whether the owners will select players on the Fantasy Board on td.com over the course of a pre-selected week, or via live draft on the ESPN website at pre-selected and approved date and time. Majority wins?
Slow (2): Phan, Mccain, RMC
Live (2): Karma, LE
EDIT: Let's clarify to say that if four people sponsor this rule, it'll pass to a vote.
EDIT: If we can get two thirds right here in this thread, would everyone be okay just adopting it?
- Catastrophe IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place an injured player into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. However, if this IR privilege is used, than the owner is required to KEEP that player the following year. The player may still be traded, but must be a KEEPER for the respective owner traded as well.
-EDIT: As this rule is currently constructed, the player can return to the active roster within the season.
Sponsors (4): Karma, Gyno, LE, McCain,
-Traditional IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place injured player(s) into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. The IR's eligibility will be dictated by ESPN. At the end of the player's IR eligibility, he can be moved back into the active roster.
Sponsors (2): McCain, Gyno
-Game Cap Limits-
Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week.
-Edit: Phan conditionally supports if FA pickup rule not adopted.
Sponsors (0)
-Free Agent Pickup Limits-
Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 4 FA Pickups per week.
-Edit: LE proposes 4 FA pickups per week.
-Edit: Phan conditionally supports, but only if 3 FA pickups per week
Sponsors (2): LE, Port
-Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters-
All teams not competing in the playoffs are no longer active teams, and can not add or pick up players dropped by playoff teams. All FAs and waivers will continue to the draft pool the following year.
Sponsors (4): Karma, Gyno, Mccain, Phan
-Slow Draft/Live Draft-
Choosing whether the owners will select players on the Fantasy Board on td.com over the course of a pre-selected week, or via live draft on the ESPN website at pre-selected and approved date and time. Majority wins?
Slow (2): Phan, Mccain, RMC
Live (2): Karma, LE
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 9:29 pm
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:33 pm to LSU Fan 90812
slow draft
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:39 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
-Game Cap Limits-
Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week.
The above would seem to obviate the need for:
quote:
-Free Agent Pickup Limits-
Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 3 FA Pickups per week.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:39 pm to cwill
i don't think the two are mutually exclusive.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:42 pm to LSU Fan 90812
So do we vote here?
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:45 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
Free Agent Pickup Limits- Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 3 FA Pickups per week.
if we were limited to 3, I would conceed on game cap limits.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:50 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
So do we vote here?
we don't need to vote here, but this is your chance to weigh in, add/subtract details of the rules being discussed, and/or propose a rule of your own. Or you can say of the issues that are dual, which one you think we should even be voting on.
just trying to get all the things discussed where people can see them. Let's say that if four people sponsor a rule, we'll put it to a vote.
i'll put the the issues to a vote in three days, with the language being as clear and defined as possible.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 5:01 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
- Catastrophe IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place an injured player into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. However, if this IR privilege is used, than the owner is required to KEEP that player the following year. The player may still be traded, but must be a KEEPER for the respective owner traded as well.
Sponsors (1 of 4): Karma
I support this
quote:
-Traditional IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place injured player(s) into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. The IR's eligibility will be dictated by ESPN. At the end of the player's IR eligibility, he can be moved back into the active roster.
Sponsors (0 of 4):
I support this
quote:
-Game Cap Limits-
Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week.
Sponsors (0 of 4)
I do not support this
quote:
-Free Agent Pickup Limits-
Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 3 FA Pickups per week.
Sponsors (0 of 4)
I do not support this.
quote:
-Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters-
All teams not competing in the playoffs are no longer active teams, and can not add or pick up players dropped by playoff teams. All FAs and waivers will continue to the draft pool the following year.
Sponsors (1 of 4): Karma
I support this
quote:
-Slow Draft/Live Draft-
Choosing whether the owners will select players on the Fantasy Board on td.com over the course of a pre-selected week, or via live draft on the ESPN website at pre-selected and approved date and time. Majority wins?
Slow: Phan,
Live: Karma
After thinking about it, I am fine with either.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 5:10 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
- Catastrophe IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place an injured player into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. However, if this IR privilege is used, than the owner is required to KEEP that player the following year. The player may still be traded, but must be a KEEPER for the respective owner traded as well.
Sponsors (1 ): Karma
support
quote:
-Traditional IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place injured player(s) into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. The IR's eligibility will be dictated by ESPN. At the end of the player's IR eligibility, he can be moved back into the active roster.
Sponsors (0):
do not support
quote:
-Game Cap Limits-
Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week.
Sponsors (0)
do not support. There are better methods than this IMO
quote:
-Free Agent Pickup Limits-
Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 3 FA Pickups per week.
Sponsors (0)
a better method than above. 4 is a more round number imo
quote:
-Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters-
All teams not competing in the playoffs are no longer active teams, and can not add or pick up players dropped by playoff teams. All FAs and waivers will continue to the draft pool the following year.
Sponsors (1 ): Karma
do not support. this is stupid and shouldnt even be considered
quote:
-Slow Draft/Live Draft-
Choosing whether the owners will select players on the Fantasy Board on td.com over the course of a pre-selected week, or via live draft on the ESPN website at pre-selected and approved date and time. Majority wins?
Slow: Phan,
Live: Karma
Live
Posted on 9/25/12 at 5:15 pm to TigerPhan27
4 seems like a good number to me.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 5:17 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
i don't think the two are mutually exclusive.
Maybe not, but what's the point. If games are capped at 50 streaming provides no benefit so you don't need to guard against it with 3 drop-adds/week.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 5:22 pm to cwill
i think some of the game caps come because of how condensed the schedule was last year, and all the back to back to backs teams played
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:14 pm to LSU Fan 90812
Catastrophe IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place an injured player into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. However, if this IR privilege is used, than the owner is required to KEEP that player the following year. The player may still be traded, but must be a KEEPER for the respective owner traded as well.
Sponsors (3 ): Karma, Gyno, LE
SUPPORT
-Traditional IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place injured player(s) into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. The IR's eligibility will be dictated by ESPN. At the end of the player's IR eligibility, he can be moved back into the active roster.
Sponsors (1): Gyno
SUPPORT
-Game Cap Limits-
Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week.
Sponsors (0)
AGAINST
-Free Agent Pickup Limits-
Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 4 FA Pickups per week.
-Edit: LE proposes 4 FA pickups per week.
Sponsors (2): LE, Port
AGAINST
-Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters-
All teams not competing in the playoffs are no longer active teams, and can not add or pick up players dropped by playoff teams. All FAs and waivers will continue to the draft pool the following year.
Sponsors (2 ): Karma, Gyno
SUPPORT
-Slow Draft/Live Draft-
Choosing whether the owners will select players on the Fantasy Board on td.com over the course of a pre-selected week, or via live draft on the ESPN website at pre-selected and approved date and time. Majority wins?
SLOW DRAFT ON ESPN
Each owner is allowed to place an injured player into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. However, if this IR privilege is used, than the owner is required to KEEP that player the following year. The player may still be traded, but must be a KEEPER for the respective owner traded as well.
Sponsors (3 ): Karma, Gyno, LE
SUPPORT
-Traditional IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place injured player(s) into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. The IR's eligibility will be dictated by ESPN. At the end of the player's IR eligibility, he can be moved back into the active roster.
Sponsors (1): Gyno
SUPPORT
-Game Cap Limits-
Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week.
Sponsors (0)
AGAINST
-Free Agent Pickup Limits-
Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 4 FA Pickups per week.
-Edit: LE proposes 4 FA pickups per week.
Sponsors (2): LE, Port
AGAINST
-Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters-
All teams not competing in the playoffs are no longer active teams, and can not add or pick up players dropped by playoff teams. All FAs and waivers will continue to the draft pool the following year.
Sponsors (2 ): Karma, Gyno
SUPPORT
-Slow Draft/Live Draft-
Choosing whether the owners will select players on the Fantasy Board on td.com over the course of a pre-selected week, or via live draft on the ESPN website at pre-selected and approved date and time. Majority wins?
SLOW DRAFT ON ESPN
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:06 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
Catastrophe IR Spot- Each owner is allowed to place an injured player into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. However, if this IR privilege is used, than the owner is required to KEEP that player the following year. The player may still be traded, but must be a KEEPER for the respective owner traded as well. Sponsors (3 ): Karma, Gyno, LE
For, but this needs clarification. If you put someone on this it must be for the enitre season. So if someone is out for 3-4 months and there is a question of them coming back and you put them on this IR even if they come back IRL you cant use them
quote:
Traditional IR Spot- Each owner is allowed to place injured player(s) into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. The IR's eligibility will be dictated by ESPN. At the end of the player's IR eligibility, he can be moved back into the active roster. Sponsors (1): Gyno
not sure, still think this needs more detail
quote:
-Game Cap Limits- Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week. Sponsors (0)
against if we limit pickups to 3
otherwise support
quote:
-Free Agent Pickup Limits- Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 4 FA Pickups per week. -Edit: LE proposes 4 FA pickups per week. Sponsors (2): LE, Port
3 for
4 against
quote:
Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters- All teams not competing in the playoffs are no longer active teams, and can not add or pick up players dropped by playoff teams. All FAs and waivers will continue to the draft pool the following year. Sponsors (2 ): Karma, Gyno
for
quote:
-Slow Draft/Live Draft- Choosing whether the owners will select players on the Fantasy Board on td.com over the course of a pre-selected week, or via live draft on the ESPN website at pre-selected and approved date and time. Majority wins? Slow (1): Phan, Live (2): Karma, LE
slow on espn
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:33 pm to TigerPhan27
quote:
For, but this needs clarification. If you put someone on this it must be for the enitre season. So if someone is out for 3-4 months and there is a question of them coming back and you put them on this IR even if they come back IRL you cant use them
i don't think that it should necessarily be a pre-req that they can't come back. if someone gets injured in december and won't return til march, i think it's fine for them to be able to come back. the point is to protect people from having to choose between giving up a player at the expense of a season. the rule as is, right now allows for that player's return.
quote:
not sure, still think this needs more detail
what language would you like to have added?
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:51 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
i don't think that it should necessarily be a pre-req that they can't come back. if someone gets injured in december and won't return til march, i think it's fine for them to be able to come back. the point is to protect people from having to choose between giving up a player at the expense of a season. the rule as is, right now allows for that player's return
so what if someone is out for 3 weeks, can we put them on this special IR? I think thats what the other IR is for
quote:
not sure, still think this needs more detail what language would you like to have added?
I think if you put someone on this IR they must sit out from your lineup for a designated amount of time. Since there isnt really an IR in the NBA I dont want day to day injured people to be able to go this IR without a consequence. This will just lead to a lot more streaming
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:54 pm to TigerPhan27
quote:
so what if someone is out for 3 weeks, can we put them on this special IR? I think thats what the other IR is for
if you're willing to commit to keeping that player next year, then that's fine.
maybe though, we should adjust this to a one time usage though to make people really have to think about playing this card.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:05 pm to LSU Fan 90812
I think if we have 2 different ir's one needs to end the season for that player
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:11 pm to TigerPhan27
i think it should be one or the other.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:14 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
- Catastrophe IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place an injured player into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. However, if this IR privilege is used, than the owner is required to KEEP that player the following year. The player may still be traded, but must be a KEEPER for the respective owner traded as well.
-EDIT: As this rule is currently constructed, the player can return to the active roster within the season.
Sponsors (4): Karma, Gyno, LE, McCain,
retarded
quote:
-Traditional IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place injured player(s) into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. The IR's eligibility will be dictated by ESPN. At the end of the player's IR eligibility, he can be moved back into the active roster.
Sponsors (2): McCain, Gyno
retarded
quote:
-Game Cap Limits-
Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week.
-Edit: Phan conditionally supports if FA pickup rule not adopted.
Sponsors (0)
frick no
quote:
-Free Agent Pickup Limits-
Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 4 FA Pickups per week.
-Edit: LE proposes 4 FA pickups per week.
-Edit: Phan conditionally supports, but only if 3 FA pickups per week
Sponsors (2): LE, Port
no
quote:
-Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters-
All teams not competing in the playoffs are no longer active teams, and can not add or pick up players dropped by playoff teams. All FAs and waivers will continue to the draft pool the following year.
Sponsors (4): Karma, Gyno, Mccain, Phan
No
quote:
-Slow Draft/Live Draft-
Choosing whether the owners will select players on the Fantasy Board on td.com over the course of a pre-selected week, or via live draft on the ESPN website at pre-selected and approved date and time. Majority wins?
Slow (2): Phan, Mccain
Live (2): Karma, LE
slow
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