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re: TDBBL Rule Changes Thread-

Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:29 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:29 am to
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- Catastrophe IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place an injured player into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. However, if this IR privilege is used, than the owner is required to KEEP that player the following year. The player may still be traded, but must be a KEEPER for the respective owner traded as well.
-EDIT: As this rule is currently constructed, the player can return to the active roster within the season.
Sponsors (4): Karma, Gyno, LE, McCain,

no for now. needs to be cleaned up and refined

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-Traditional IR Spot-
Each owner is allowed to place injured player(s) into an Injured Reserve (IR) spot. The IR's eligibility will be dictated by ESPN. At the end of the player's IR eligibility, he can be moved back into the active roster.
Sponsors (2): McCain, Gyno

yes

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-Game Cap Limits-
Limiting the number of games that an owner can amass each week. Rule aimed at trying to balance scheduling irregularities, and force owners to choose which games should count towards their scoring H2H. All games over limit would not count. To be discussed- how limits will be enforced and penalties for exceeding limits. Proposed Limit: 50 games per week.
-Edit: Phan conditionally supports if FA pickup rule not adopted.
Sponsors (0)

no b/c of the other rule
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-Free Agent Pickup Limits-
Limiting the number of Free Agents (FA) that an owner can pick up in a week. Rule aimed at preventing streaming. Proposed Limit: 4 FA Pickups per week.
-Edit: LE proposes 4 FA pickups per week.
-Edit: Phan conditionally supports, but only if 3 FA pickups per week
Sponsors (2): LE, Port


i will vote for 4/week

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-Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters-
All teams not competing in the playoffs are no longer active teams, and can not add or pick up players dropped by playoff teams. All FAs and waivers will continue to the draft pool the following year.
Sponsors (4): Karma, Gyno, Mccain, Phan


no

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-Slow Draft/Live Draft-
Choosing whether the owners will select players on the Fantasy Board on td.com over the course of a pre-selected week, or via live draft on the ESPN website at pre-selected and approved date and time. Majority wins?
Slow (2): Phan, Mccain, RMC
Live (2): Karma, LE

i don't care, but ill vote slow b/c it's more fun to have everyone talking shite about the next pick
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:31 am to
this league is going to become a clusterfrick. i can fee it
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:33 am to



Can we vote on an option "Leave as is"?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:34 am to
well to avoid the games limit, i think the FA limit being decreased is a fair compromise

the IR stuff is good in theory. i think my "weekly" IR would work

that's kind of the thing with these rules. too many chiefs, not enough indians. everybody has their own little spin to the rules. this will likely keep any from passing, so that's probably good

i don't care if the draft is slow or live, but slow is more fun to me b/c of the extended interactivity
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:58 am to
Not sure if ESPN offers the option to create polls, but we just need to do that. If they don't offer a poll option, we can find a 3rd party site.

All this is just confusing matters. Type out a few clearly written polls and lets vote
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 2:33 am to
How is this confusing? We re figuring out what to vote on, and constantly editing the language.
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:11 am to
You aren't dealing with the smartest of people here karma. Sometimes you just need to spoon feed it to them
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:33 am to
If we do a slow draft I'm gonna need everyone's number. People respond to texts quicker than email.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:35 am to
I think we just need to say screw any type of IR.

I don't really like a FA cap but if that is what it takes to keep people from crying about being outgamed than fine.

I want to know why people think we should not allow non playoff teams from picking up players?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:41 am to
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I want to know why people think we should not allow non playoff teams from picking up players?


the rubio rule
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:50 am to
Catashrophe IR--Against.

Traditional IR--For.

Game Cap Limits--Depends on how other rules shake out

Free Agent P/U--For. 4 is fine. 7 was too much last year.

Playoff FA/Waiver Rosters-- Once playoffs start, and teams are eliminated from money games (Champ and 3rd place)..there lineups should be locked.

Slow Draft/Live Draft--I prefer live. My posting time will be limited on a go forward basis.
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:56 am to
My .02 on rule changes:

I will vote against anything I deem to make the league less competitive, or that rewards teams selling out.

I also will vote against anything that cannot be policed/controlled by ESPN. I think we set ourselves up for a sticky situation when making rules outside of the leagues possible settings.

I'm in full support for the traditional IR. Especially if we limit weekly transactions.

Is it an option to expand rosters, to say 18 or 20 (just tossing out numbers), have no FA pickups during the week, and run waivers every Sunday night?
I know quite a few baseball leagues that do this to eliminate any streaming for cats.

You will have the extra spots to not be hurt with rostering and injured guy or two. And also it'll give everyone a fair shot based on waiver priority and top emerging FAs each week. Not just who happens to be around the CPU to snag the next Jeremy Lin.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:04 am to
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Not just who happens to be around the CPU to snag the next Jeremy Lin.

well let me say that scouting out players and what they're doing does take focus and work

for example, i got klay thompson when his situation improved. i knew what he was doing b/c i had been keeping track of him.

now rubio i got via waiver steal, but i would have regardless of the system b/c i saved my top waiver priority for just that situation

Posted by Toula
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:10 am to
I drafted Klay Thompson..i was a believer.


ETA--I agree with Phan's point about FA streaming..The fact that one guy can be on 3 teams in a week is laughable.

Locking people into a FA p/u for the week will make the FA moves more of a big deal.

Thoughts on this proposal? Seems like a comprimise to several of the rule suggestions.

FA pool is on waivers all week. Waivers run Sunday night. All day monday can add/drop w/o waivers. Waivers lock start of game 1 on Monday.



This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 8:17 am
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:17 am to
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Is it an option to expand rosters, to say 18 or 20 (just tossing out numbers), have no FA pickups during the week, and run waivers every Sunday night? I know quite a few baseball leagues that do this to eliminate any streaming for cats.


I actually really like this idea alot
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:19 am to
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Is it an option to expand rosters, to say 18 or 20 (just tossing out numbers), have no FA pickups during the week, and run waivers every Sunday night? I know quite a few baseball leagues that do this to eliminate reaming for cats.


It is, but I am strongly against this.

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And also it'll give everyone a fair shot based on waiver priority


No, you're only giving teams with top waiver priority in that particular week a chance. You have maybe 3-5 real impact players that come out if nowhere, if that. You're basically screwed if you're not high on the waiver order for a particular week. I'm not down for providing Obamacare for the league. I'd rather reward guys for paying attention and being active.



Personally I will vote to reduce f/a acquisitions to 4. There's not really much that needs to be fixed. Also I would prefer a live draft because a slow draft can be pretty taxing on a commish, but if others are cool with helping out then I'm cool with a slow draft too.
This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 8:27 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:19 am to
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Waivers run Sunday night. All day monday can add/drop w/o waivers.

i misunderstood your initial point, b/c there has to be a day without waivers. if i need to change 2 guys and i whiff on both waivers, then i'd be fricked for that week. i'll consider this proposal
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:31 am to
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Also I would prefer a live draft because a slow draft can be pretty taxing on a commish, but if others are cool with helping out then I'm cool with a slow draft too.


Just curious as to what the overwhelming demands on the commish are in a slow draft? The draft is set up on the website and people draft when ready. Everyone will remind them on here when it's their turn. Seems pretty easy
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:39 am to
Have you checked to see if that is an option on ESPN? Because it wasn't last year. I had to do every pick manually, not to mention notifying people when it was there pick. It was an around the clock job for 5 days.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 9:09 am to
Let Phan be commish
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