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Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:22 pm to dj30
Yeah, I went back and saw he did it against me in the first week of the season as well, so that would change that score too.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:31 pm to reddman
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I'll say this. I wouldn't want to beat someone 12-0 because he was an idiot.
The problem is, there is no way to know what roster moves he would've made to offset this. He might have not rostered a player that had an effect on our match. Hell, maybe I could've used one of the extra hitters to win that matchup.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:32 pm to papz
So you weren't aware of the criteria to be on the minor league roster? That's basically the premise of this league. I'm all for not reading the rules but cmon.
Why would anyone pay attention to another team's minor league roster during a weekly matchup? Unless someone was seeking out a trade for one of your MiLB guys, no one would notice that. The onus here isn't on the opposing team
I'm going to be honest with you: it looks like you deliberately cheated the system. You should lose stats for everyday your roster was illegal.
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This is now my 5th opponent and it took 5 weeks for someone to actually tell me it wasn't legal. And had GF not pointed it out, who knows how long I would have done it. That also say something about whether or not my opponent even knew if it were legal or not. I also played GF last week and it took a rejected trade for him to even realize it.
Why would anyone pay attention to another team's minor league roster during a weekly matchup? Unless someone was seeking out a trade for one of your MiLB guys, no one would notice that. The onus here isn't on the opposing team
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Whatever the ruling my be, I'll deal with it. If all my wins are vacated, I'd like to know soon so I can plan accordingly how I will approach the rest of the season.
I'm going to be honest with you: it looks like you deliberately cheated the system. You should lose stats for everyday your roster was illegal.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:42 pm to GynoSandberg
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Yeah you shuffle players actually eligible for the MiLB roster
this is the problem when we expand our leagues past our core group and start letting the riff raff in
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:45 pm to GynoSandberg
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I'm going to be honest with you: it looks like you deliberately cheated the system. You should lose stats for everyday your roster was illegal.
agreed, and I usually don't care enough to say a guy who made an honest mistake should forfeit games, but papz knew he was cheating the system and that should be dealt with and if he didn't know he just lose all his games for a being a moron in general
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:46 pm to papz
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I do want to post one last thing on the matter. Whenever my lineup is illegal, I get one of these in my e-mail.
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Hi papz,
Your roster for period 34 (May 8, 2015) for your team Captain Kickass in the FSB Dynasty League league is illegal. You can click on the link below to go to your team roster page to fix this.
LINK
Thanks,
The Administrator
Now while many will feel as if I tried to exploit the rule, and maybe I did to some degree, I did so because I felt it was legal and it was allowed as I never received one of these during that time.
Obviously money is on the line and some of my opponents will want all the extra wins they can get... and rightfully so. I get it. With that said, I misinterpreted the rules and did not intentionally try to "cheat" anyone as I felt I was operating within the rules. It was allowed by fantrax and I took full advantage of it as it didn't make my lineup illegal.
The defense rest.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:46 pm to gadknot
You can save the holier than thou stuff for Jesus.
I have no problem if the decision comes down to all my wins being vacated.
I have no problem if the decision comes down to all my wins being vacated.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:51 pm to GynoSandberg
let's see how the high council handles this 
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:57 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:01 pm to Lester Earl
After thorough research i feel it is more probable than not that papz was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of his roster
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:02 pm to papz
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Had I known it was illegal I wouldn't have done it.
You are really taking the position that you felt putting coco fricking crisp in you MiLB lineup was legal?
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:03 pm to papz
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You can save the holier than thou stuff for Jesus.
Not trying to be holier than thou, just saying since this is an issue that appears fantrax cant police we should probably deal with people who cant play by the rules on their own accordingly so others don't get any ideas to cheat.
and sorry no one is buying that you really thought you could put a guy who's been in the league for like 20 years on your minor league roster, unless you have downs syndrome. which if you do let us know and we can let you keep half of your wins
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:05 pm to papz
it was talked about predraft how fantrax cannot monitor the AB or IP for minor leaguers, which is why you wouldn't get notified by them. It's self policing
Even if you missed that discussion, putting Jake peavy in the minors should prompt one to read the rules or ask the elders about it
Even if you missed that discussion, putting Jake peavy in the minors should prompt one to read the rules or ask the elders about it
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:05 pm to reddman
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I wouldn't want to beat someone 12-0 because he was an idiot
It is still early in the season and I'm sure it will all be sorted out by week 19, but there are currently 6 teams within 1 win of each other fighting for the 6th-8th playoff spots. I'd hate for that to still be the case come playoff time and someone who got a 12-0 gift from Papz ends up squeezing into the playoffs and pushing one of those teams out. That's not making the playoffs because of your team being good enough, that's making it because you were lucky enough to be one of the 4 or 5 teams that played Papz the first month of the season and you get a huge 12-0 week gift wrapped for you. If a team(s) that should be 5-6 wins below the 8th seed come playoff time ends up making it into the playoffs because they were given a 12-0 week...ouch. That'll be tough for some owners to take.
But I also understand the argument that the rules say it will be a 12-0 forfeit for illegal rosters so we should stick to that.
So I'll accept whatever. But it's a decision that could end up pissing a lot of teams off one way or the other.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:10 pm to rondo
Yes I am because I wasn't told otherwise by anyone else or fantrax. I ran with the assumption that if I shuffled minor league players into my active roster, I could just demote a player. And obviously, my interpretation was wrong. I may been an idiot on the matter, but I didn't try to cheat anyone. Had I been corrected, I would have nipped it in the butt right away.
I think this might be my 4th year playing in TD leagues? I'm sure people know what kind of owner I am by now.
I have two solutions.
1. Vacate all my wins so far.
2. If I happen to make the playoffs and cash, donate all my winnings to charity.
I think this might be my 4th year playing in TD leagues? I'm sure people know what kind of owner I am by now.
I have two solutions.
1. Vacate all my wins so far.
2. If I happen to make the playoffs and cash, donate all my winnings to charity.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:12 pm to TTownTiger
Yes that does suck since the action really did not affect anything.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:12 pm to papz
This is one of those situations where you get punished more for lying about what you did versus what you actually did.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:14 pm to gadknot
I'm not lying about anything. I felt as if I was operating within the rules... and I really did feel that way.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:23 pm to papz
I feel vacating his wins so far would basically give his opponents to this point an unfair advantage in the standings.
Those 5 teams could coast to the top 5 spots.
If anyone gets a free 12-0...ALL teams should get the free 12-0
essentially leave records as is (including his) then at the end, give everyone 12 wins and reduce 12 losses.
He keeps his record.
If he can make the playoffs 12 games back then he deserves it.
Those 5 teams could coast to the top 5 spots.
If anyone gets a free 12-0...ALL teams should get the free 12-0
essentially leave records as is (including his) then at the end, give everyone 12 wins and reduce 12 losses.
He keeps his record.
If he can make the playoffs 12 games back then he deserves it.
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