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Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:00 pm to wrlakers
LOL at you getting all high and mighty. You probably think it's "dishonest" to bluff in a home game of poker.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:03 pm to DallasTiger45
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forte, Morris, Stacy, Ridley, Gore.
I want in this league next year
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:04 pm to DallasTiger45
If people are to dumb to familiarize themselves with the rules and scoring that's on them, keep your mouth shut and profit accordingly
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:12 pm to DallasTiger45
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LOL at you getting all high and mighty.
A trustworthy person respects others, rights wrongs, and shows loyalty to others. A trustworthy person would not undermine his own credibility by scheming to obtain an unfair advantage.
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You probably think it's "dishonest" to bluff in a home game of poker.
Bluffing in poker is a way to obtain an advantage, but it is a fair way.
This is my point: if you stay silent and win the league because of the scoring mess up, what will you friends think of you if they ever discover the truth?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:16 pm to DallasTiger45
bluffing is a bad comparison...this is cheating...lying as well.
no fun in winning that way anyhow, unless it is some serious motherfricking money (butters voice)
no fun in winning that way anyhow, unless it is some serious motherfricking money (butters voice)
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:18 pm to DelU249
You honestly think it is cheating for me to not say anything? That's absolutely crazy.
I already said I think I've decided I'm going to make it known to the commissioner .
I already said I think I've decided I'm going to make it known to the commissioner .
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:22 pm to DallasTiger45
Well the season already started. I think the commish should leave the settings as is.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:23 pm to DallasTiger45
yes it is, because you're making moves based on this info that only you are so far privy to
were they deliberately made to believe that the scoring system would be something else? If so, you're cheating
they should have caught this already, and if what you're saying is true, they will...they'll check the points and go wow, let me look at his numbers and then they won't match
league can be forfeited if you've materially altered your team, or they can just reset the results and now you're left with a team that was built for a different scoring system
cheating aside, it is in your best interests to make them aware of it
were they deliberately made to believe that the scoring system would be something else? If so, you're cheating
they should have caught this already, and if what you're saying is true, they will...they'll check the points and go wow, let me look at his numbers and then they won't match
league can be forfeited if you've materially altered your team, or they can just reset the results and now you're left with a team that was built for a different scoring system
cheating aside, it is in your best interests to make them aware of it
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:25 pm to DelU249
I would agree if I was the only one who had access to this info. I'm not, it's clearly stated on the "scoring rules" tab of the website. Everybody is "privy" to this information.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:30 pm to DallasTiger45
don't say anything, unload for receivers
then they can vote to change the settings back and apply them retroactively...you'd be fricked right?
I agree, it is their responsibility to be paying attention, but were they deliberately told the settings would be otherwise?
False Inducement IMO, deliberate or not...and if it is indeed a BIG MONEY league, they'll raise a stink and vote when they find out
then they can vote to change the settings back and apply them retroactively...you'd be fricked right?
I agree, it is their responsibility to be paying attention, but were they deliberately told the settings would be otherwise?
False Inducement IMO, deliberate or not...and if it is indeed a BIG MONEY league, they'll raise a stink and vote when they find out
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:32 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Well the season already started. I think the commish should leave the settings as is.
If I drafted based on certain settings and then those settings were not used, I would be pissed.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 1:44 pm to wrlakers
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Scheming against friends? Seriously?
Now that we know what kind of person you are, ask yourself what kind of person you want people to think you are.
How is the OP scheming against friends? The whole league is playing by that set of rules.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:11 pm to OnTheBrink
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How is the OP scheming against friends?
I was responding to another poster, not the OP. The other poster said in response to the "Do I tell question" that it "Depends."
To me, it depends is scheming against friends because the other poster was saying to tell only if it would help the OP.
I say being forthright is the best policy.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:16 pm to wrlakers
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was responding to another poster, not the OP
Yeah, I know, it was me. You said I was an awful person.
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To me, it depends is scheming against friends because the other poster was saying to tell only if it would help the OP.
While I agree that honesty is the best policy, not a single other player in that league has the OP's best interests in mind. Maybe the OP misheard the rules at the live draft? It seems to me if anyone else in the league gave a bakers frick, this would have been caught on the first Thursday night game. How this has went two weeks and not noticed in a "big money" league is beyond me.
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:30 pm to OnTheBrink
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not a single other player in that league has the OP's best interests in mind.
I don't know those people and they didn't post a question on this site. The OP did. He was wondering what the ethical thing to do was. The other league owners may or may not be concerned with ethics. We don't know.
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Maybe the OP misheard the rules at the live draft?
Pretty sure that would be easy to find out if it were the case.
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It seems to me if anyone else in the league gave a bakers frick, this would have been caught on the first Thursday night game.
Again, I'm not concerned with whether other people care.
This is the issue--does the OP want to be a trustworthy person? I thought he did because of the fact that the question was posed. If the answer is yes, then he should bring the issue up. If not, then . . . well, you know.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:39 pm to wrlakers
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wrlakers
So, if the OP noticed another player in his league has AP starting and is playing against him this week, should he tell him? Of course he wouldn't, right?
To me it is the same thing. If the people in the league care, they would have noticed it.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:45 pm to OnTheBrink
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So, if the OP noticed another player in his league has AP starting and is playing against him this week, should he tell him?
This is not the same. The OP is not in charge of informing other owners of news about that owner's players.
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If the people in the league care, they would have noticed it.
It appears that the OP does care and did notice. Therefore, he should raise it. Why should he wait for someone else to do the right thing when he is in a position to do the right thing. This goes to the integrity of the league and the integrity of the OP.
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OnTheBrink
Integrity is a concern to people who want to be trustworthy.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:46 pm to OnTheBrink
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So, if the OP noticed another player in his league has AP starting and is playing against him this week, should he tell him? Of course he wouldn't, right?
That isn't the same thing at all. This is just as bad as the bluffing analogy. It is part of the game and rules to pay attention to your players and manage your team. It is not part of the game to be wary that the rules are different than what you are explicitly told. It is going outside of the rules. It is definitely dishonest, and it is borderline cheating not to tell once you find out there is a problem with the rules.
Just discussing the principle at this point.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:02 pm to Peazey
Some interesting debate in this thread. I asked two people at work and their opinions were split too 
I went ahead and told both my buddies, so it should be getting resolved soon. Thanks for the responses
I went ahead and told both my buddies, so it should be getting resolved soon. Thanks for the responses
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