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re: 28 hrs of fantasy football news/projections on espn2

Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:15 am to
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4583 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:15 am to
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PPR



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fine format for people who don't/can't spend a ton of time on research and absorbing analysis and projections

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It's a format designed for the most casual fantasy players and that's okay.


This is pretty much the exact opposite of reality my friend
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:00 am to
So you are saying less research is needed even tho there are more relevant players?

You realize that makes zero sense, right?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:26 am to
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I don't personally know any "serious" players who play in any Non-PPR leagues and it's been like that for awhile. PPR is the much better game, clearly.




Any "shark" league with big players from ESPN, rotoworld, pro football focus etc isn't less than 12 teams, and it definitely ain't standard scoring
Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
4622 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:58 am to
There are more ways to win in a PPR league with a more diverse player pool.

Yes, it's dumb that a player can get a point for a 0 yard catch, but as others have said, it isn't an extremely common play. An easy catch is worth the same as a difficult catch so I think it evens itself out over the course of the season.

There are inconsistencies with both formats, so I want to play the one that is more enjoyable, which is the one that is less TD dependent.

Posted by lpgreat1
Monroe, LA
Member since Nov 2007
1509 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:04 am to
I've always found PPR to be a much easier format to draft and navigate through a season, as far as determining which players/positions are more impactful. But that's just me.

To me, a larger number of relevant players allows for more of a "throw a dart anywhere on the board and pick who it lands on" mentality, which makes it simpler to play. Maybe harder to win, but simpler to play.

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158752 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:07 am to
that explains tzimme's championships he claims to have, most likely is just the yearly zimme family champ in their 8 team standard league. His aunt mabel puts up a good fight though
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:43 am to
Why do yo play PPR then?

You realize just about all PPR guys started with standard. It's a graduation because it's a better & more challenging format
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:44 am to
You want that spot, m8?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158752 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:46 am to
got to reschedule 2 IRL drafts and that sunday is currently one being possibly tabbed. Should know by the end of the day on its date, tough getting everyone on the same page currently brochacho
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:52 am to
I can understand m8.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28364 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 12:55 pm to
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As for the whole reception for zero yards thing, you are talking how many plays in the 35,000 or so ran in the NFL all year?

A lot of WR screens end in zero or negative yards throughout the year.
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 12:56 pm
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28364 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 12:57 pm to
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that explains tzimme's championships he claims to have, most likely is just the yearly zimme family champ in their 8 team standard league. His aunt mabel puts up a good fight though


Who?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:03 pm to
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A lot of WR screens end in zero or negative yards throughout the year


A lot, huh?

Like once a game or less than 1% of total plays
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:06 pm to
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Making players more relevant that shouldn't be relevant, i.e. Theo Riddick and Danny Woodhead who compile empty stats, doesn't make it fun IMO. It further reduces the importance of the draft which I think makes it less









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Riddick forced 36 missed tackles on 80 receptions last year as he finished 2015 with a 99.9 receiving grade, the highest we’ve ever seen from a running back in the NFL in our 10 years of grading. Riddick was tremendous last year, and should once again see a big role in the Lions’ passing offense in 2016.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:15 pm to
How does it make the draft less important when these guys are all drafted? I'm a big believer that the draft should be the most important part of the season too, but PPR doesn't affect that. What affects it is any league smaller than 12 teams. In a 8 or 10 team league you can blow the draft and still field a solid team because there will be enough players on waivers left over after the draft is over to make a competitive team just off of waivers guys.
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Broken Ear Glen
Baton Roog
Member since Mar 2010
1320 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:40 pm to
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what is an empty stat & how do you make up determination?


Common sense. Danny Woodhead is not a valuable football player in the NFL, however, when comparing his stats on the surface to other players it would seem he is comparable to them when we all know he is not. He has history for compiling stats that are not reflective of his value to an NFL team. Aka putting up big numbers that have no effect on the outcome of an NFL game. Same with Blake Bortles. A avg at best QB who's numbers when compared to others look very respectable, but in reality they're empty stats.

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how does it reduce the importance of the draft?


When you have more relevant players available for pick up because of a scoring format, it puts less importance of hitting in the draft cause you can still frick up and salvage your team quite nicely. Same amount of teams, same NFL players, one scoring format provides more success to those same players makes PPR easier than Standard and gives you more leeway in the draft to mess up compared to standard.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:46 pm to
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When you have more relevant players available for pick up because of a scoring format,


How are there more relevant players? A 12 point player in PPR is just as relevant as a 6 point player in standard.

What makes the draft more important is the number of players drafted(ie league size) not scoring system.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51617 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:49 pm to
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How are there more relevant players? A 12 point player in PPR is just as relevant as a 6 point player in standard.


Chris Thompson is irrelevant in standard. He's rosterable in PPR. There are plenty of guys out there like that.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51617 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:50 pm to
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Danny Woodhead is not a valuable football player in the NFL,
what? All the guy does is move the chains
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:51 pm to
And there are players who are relevant in standard and not PPR.
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