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re: How "bourbon" got it's name...Bourbon County or Bourbon Street in New Orleans?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:54 am to ronk
Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:54 am to ronk
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Also, jack isn't considered bourbon because they don't use NEW charred oak barrels.
That's all Jack uses, they don't reuse their barrels. They sell them to other companies. The difference from bourbon is the mellowing process over the maple charcoal.
Interesting Louisiana fact, some barrels go to Tabasco for their hot sauce production.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 6:57 am
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:44 am to Dam Guide
quote:I can neither confirm nor deny this statement but I do know, after having been on more than a few tours of distilleries world-over that there quite a bit of used barrel trading which goes on worldwide. This is to use the subtle flavors which remain in certain barrels to influence a secondary spirits' development, such as used California wine barrels to European whisk(e)y producers, etc...
Interesting Louisiana fact, some barrels go to Tabasco for their hot sauce production.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:49 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Wasn't bourbon Louis xiv's last name? I thought that's what bourbon street as named after.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:53 am to saintsfan92612
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Wasn't bourbon Louis xiv's last name? I thought that's what bourbon street as named after.
Correct... well it was named after the 'House of Bourbon' royal family.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:19 am to saintsfan92612
quote:Silly.
Wasn't bourbon Louis xiv's last name? I thought that's what bourbon street as named after.
Kings and Queens don't have last names like me or you.
The royal family they come from have a name, like Hapsburg or Battenberg or Windsor.
Elizabeth II of Great Britain is the head of the Royal House of Windsor, but she is not "Betty Windsor" to 'er snooker mates dow' at the pub.
They did stick "Windsor" on Prince Andrew's uniform when he served in the UK's military.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:04 am to ronk
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Also, jack isn't considered bourbon because they don't use NEW charred oak barrels.
Jack Daniels does indeed use NEW charred oak barrels that they char themselves at the Brown-Forman Cooperage.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:27 am to Jackalope
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Also, jack isn't considered bourbon because they don't use NEW charred oak barrels.
The reason Jack is considered Tennessee Whiskey and not bourbon is because they use the lincoln county method of filtering it through charred maple. it has nothing to do with the barrel
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:49 am to soccerfüt
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Elizabeth II of Great Britain is the head of the Royal House of Windsor, but she is not "Betty Windsor" to 'er snooker mates dow' at the pub.
They did stick "Windsor" on Prince Andrew's uniform when he served in the UK's military.
Interesting fact about the current ruling house of the British, they're really Germans. Until WWI the name of their house was House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
As for the theory in the OP, it's a cool theory and all, but completely false. Bourbon whiskey was born in Bourbon County, Kentucky and that's where it's name comes from. The barrels they put the whiskey in and shipped out to ports all over, including New Orleans, were marked "Bourbon County Whiskey" or "Old Bourbon County Whiskey" to differentiate it from whiskies made in other areas.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:13 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Fun fact: A guy I know is about to release the first batch of Bourbon made in Bourbon County since prohibition.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:30 am to ronk
quote:Ronk, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Also, jack isn't considered bourbon because they don't use NEW charred oak barrels.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:35 am to gmrkr5
quote:10 feet of charcoaled sugar maple to be exact. And yes, that is what makes it different.
filtering it through charred maple
All Bourbons are a Whiskey, but not every Whiskey is Bourbon.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:35 am to gmrkr5
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the lincoln county method of filtering it through charred maple
So you're saying that's better than the West Virginia method of filtering through old car radiators?
I'll have to think on that a bit.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:49 am to Darth_Vader
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As for the theory in the OP, it's a cool theory and all, but completely false. Bourbon whiskey was born in Bourbon County, Kentucky and that's where it's name comes from. The barrels they put the whiskey in and shipped out to ports all over, including New Orleans, were marked "Bourbon County Whiskey" or "Old Bourbon County Whiskey" to differentiate it from whiskies made in other areas.
Which can't be proven either, which is why it is in dispute. Even Kentucky people argue about different Kentucky people inventing it when using charred barrels to age spirits is well older than America.
In the end it doesn't really matter because Bourbon County and Bourbon Street both get their name from the same place.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:53 am to Darth_Vader
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As for the theory in the OP, it's a cool theory and all, but completely false.
No one knows this for sure, including you.
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Bourbon whiskey was born in Bourbon County, Kentucky
Again, no one knows this for sure, including you.
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The barrels they put the whiskey in and shipped out to ports all over, including New Orleans, were marked "Bourbon County Whiskey" or "Old Bourbon County Whiskey" to differentiate it from whiskies made in other areas.
Did you even bother to -read- the links provided?
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Michael Veach is Louisville's unofficial bourbon ambassador. As associate curator of special collections at Louisville’s Filson Historical Society and a former archivist for United Distilleries, situated in the heart of Kentucky Bourbon Country, 54-year-old Veach has spent decades studying bourbon history.
I'm not going to apologize for believing his opinion over yours. Frankly, it's not even a difficult decision.
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Take his argument on where the name ‘bourbon’ comes from. Visit any local distillery and you’ll likely hear that the moniker derives from Bourbon County—once part of a larger expanse known as Old Bourbon—in upstate Kentucky. However, says Veach, the timeline just doesn’t match up.
Though the Filson Historical Society is home to bourbon labels printed as early as the 1850s, he says, “the story that the name ‘bourbon’ comes from Bourbon County doesn’t even start appearing in print until the 1870s.” Instead, Veach believes the name evolved in New Orleans after two men known as the Tarascon brothers arrived to Louisville from south of Cognac, France, and began shipping local whiskey down the Ohio River to Louisiana’s bustling port city. “They knew that if Kentuckians put their whiskey into charred barrels they could sell it to New Orleans’ residents, who would like it because it tastes more like cognac or ‘French brandy’,” says Veach.
In the 19th century, New Orleans entertainment district was Bourbon Street, as it is today. “People starting asking for ‘that whiskey they sell on Bourbon Street,’” he says, “which eventually became ‘that bourbon whiskey.’”
I don't know for a fact that he's right. But I do know for a fact that neither do you. So my advice to you is to stop sounding like you do know.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:23 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
No shite. 
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