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re: Do you believe obesity is a disability?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:21 pm to thesoccerfanjax
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:21 pm to thesoccerfanjax
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All other things being equal, a heavier person is more at risk for disease than a lighter person. That's the purpose of BMI - to attempt to measure how at risk a person is to disease.
I like this explanation. The online charts take this reasonable definition and add the "obese, overweight, normal" etc. stuff
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:25 pm to Bleeding purple
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I do everything right, and still cant lose weight" is just failure to recognize their own inadequacies
Humans have an amazing capacity for this in every area of life.
Back on point, that is why I do weight watchers (online with points, not meetings and their meals). Without a tool to help me, I can easily justify and explain away why I am not where I want to be. That said, once I get to 170, I will be light enough.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:27 pm to Tigertown in ATL
the capacity we have to lie to ourselves and others is truly astounding
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:29 pm to Pilot Tiger
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your body says otherwise
Rephrase- I don't feel obese. I also move like someone 30lbs lighter than I am.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:32 pm to Pilot Tiger
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the capacity we have to lie to ourselves and others is truly astounding
We agree!
In all seriousness, doesn't 5'10 and 130 seem way too thin and 5'10" and 175 seem "normal"? Or is that a societal thing? Once I hit 170 I won't have a pooch or any handles.
On the one hand we justify the fatness of our society and on the other hand think an actress shaped like a 12 year old boy is "hot"
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:35 pm to Pilot Tiger
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BMI is a guideline
It is a shitty one.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:41 pm to Agforlife
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Call it what you want, but I eat healthy and get a reasonable amount of exercise and I have a hrd time shedding weight
Do you know how many calories you eat per day? Do you know how many calories your body requires to maintain your current weight? Chances are you are not eating as "healthy" as you think and are eating more calories than you think.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:42 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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In all seriousness, doesn't 5'10 and 130 seem way too thin and 5'10" and 175 seem "normal"? Or is that a societal thing?
I'm 5'11 and 220lbs. I probably need to lose 10-15 lbs. But I look at pictures when I was 190 and I look like a bowling ball on a pencil. I was too skinny for my frame.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:43 pm to mouton
It's a vicious cycle.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:44 pm to Bleeding purple
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With the exception of physically cutting away tissue instead of expending energy, no, no there is not.
If you feel strongly about it, please elaborate.
Genetics do matter. There are people my same weight as I am now that get different results if we both went on the same diet. They could eat the same amount of calories as me and do the exact same amount of exercise as me and they would end up at a different weight than me. Things like hormones, drugs, metabolism etc do matter.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:45 pm to carhartt
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I'm 5'11 and 220lbs. I probably need to lose 25-30 lbs.
FIFY
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:11 pm to lsu480
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Things like hormones, drugs, metabolism etc do matter
Yes, but they all matter on the expenditure side of the issue. No one is saying that exercise is the only consideration on the expenditure side of the equation. It is however, the portion you have the most control over. If you have a low metabolism and thus a low resting expenditure of calories then you will need to make up the difference by either eating less or moving more. If you use drugs that elevate our resting metabolic expenditure the you will not have to eat as few calories or exercise as much.
It is still:
calories in > calories expended = weight gain
calories in = calories expended = weight neutral
calories in < calories expended = weight loss
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:13 pm to Bleeding purple
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calories in > calories expended = weight gain
calories in = calories expended = weight neutral
calories in < calories expended = weight loss
No doubt, I was just saying there ARE other factors that go into a persons weight.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:23 pm to lsu480
I agree. It is foolish for someone wanting to lose weight to do the exact same thing some one else is doing and expect the exact same results. We are all unique.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:23 pm to The Hurricane
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Do you believe obesity is a disability?
I suppose in a world where high school cheerleading is considered a sport, obesity is a disability.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:39 pm to The Hurricane
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Do you believe obesity is a disability?
For the vast majority of cases, no. There are some rare conditions that could cause obesity, but I think it's few and far between.
I grew up obese as a child, but managed to lose weight during my teen years and for the most part keep it off. My BMI is currently 23.2, in the normal range but "high normal". People who comment on my body/weight say I'm quite thin, but according to the BMI scale I'm not even in the mid-range of being normal.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:58 pm to Bleeding purple
This is why body fat % is important:
The man is 160#, just different body fat %.
https://bamboocorefitness.com/one-pound-of-fat-versus-one-pound-of-muscle-clearing-up-the-misconception/
The man is 160#, just different body fat %.
https://bamboocorefitness.com/one-pound-of-fat-versus-one-pound-of-muscle-clearing-up-the-misconception/
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:59 pm to The Hurricane
You did the right thing.
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